WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 00:00:01.967 --> 00:00:04.537 line:0% -It was a time of struggle, a period of daily discrimination, 00:00:04.537 --> 00:00:07.340 line:0% an era that sparked the fight for one's rights. 00:00:07.340 --> 00:00:09.909 line:0% And yet, the war had only just begun. 00:00:09.909 --> 00:00:13.880 line:0% It was 1941 and the U.S. was at war. 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:16.582 line:0% However, while battles ensued far overseas 00:00:16.582 --> 00:00:17.984 line:0% during World War II, 00:00:17.984 --> 00:00:21.353 line:0% another fight was already taking place close to home soil. 00:00:21.353 --> 00:00:23.356 line:0% Although President Franklin Delano Roosevelt 00:00:23.356 --> 00:00:25.591 line:0% banned discrimination against African-Americans 00:00:25.591 --> 00:00:27.593 line:0% in the defense industry that year, 00:00:27.593 --> 00:00:30.096 line:0% segregation in the armed forces remained. 00:00:30.096 --> 00:00:32.965 line:0% Nevertheless, more than 2.5 million African-Americans 00:00:32.965 --> 00:00:35.401 line:0% registered for the draft when the war began. 00:00:35.401 --> 00:00:37.370 line:0% And over 1 million served. 00:00:37.370 --> 00:00:39.773 line:0% As a result of this dual fight for freedom, 00:00:39.773 --> 00:00:42.174 line:0% African-Americans pursued a double victory, 00:00:42.174 --> 00:00:43.843 line:0% one over Axis abroad 00:00:43.843 --> 00:00:46.112 line:0% and the other over discrimination at home. 00:00:50.082 --> 00:00:52.051 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this special 00:00:52.051 --> 00:00:53.619 electronic field trip. 00:00:53.619 --> 00:00:55.121 This webcast is coming to you live 00:00:55.121 --> 00:00:56.722 from the National World War II Museum 00:00:56.722 --> 00:00:58.457 in New Orleans, Louisiana. 00:00:58.457 --> 00:00:59.825 line:0% I'm Commander Damon Singleton, 00:00:59.825 --> 00:01:02.261 line:0% meteorologist and retired naval officer. 00:01:02.261 --> 00:01:03.730 line:0% Throughout the entire month of February, 00:01:03.730 --> 00:01:06.933 line:0% we call special attention to the stories of African-Americans. 00:01:06.933 --> 00:01:08.267 The founders of Black History Month, 00:01:08.267 --> 00:01:10.803 the Association for the Study of African-American Life 00:01:10.803 --> 00:01:14.507 and History or ASALH, provide a theme each year, 00:01:14.507 --> 00:01:17.009 focusing on historical issues of importance. 00:01:17.009 --> 00:01:19.546 2018's theme is African-Americans 00:01:19.546 --> 00:01:20.747 in times of war. 00:01:20.747 --> 00:01:22.015 Through that lens, 00:01:22.015 --> 00:01:23.949 this webcast will spotlight significant history 00:01:23.949 --> 00:01:25.551 and perspectives of black Americans 00:01:25.551 --> 00:01:28.387 with students like you all across the country. 00:01:28.387 --> 00:01:30.523 Today is also Digital Learning Day 00:01:30.523 --> 00:01:32.692 and we have a unique opportunity for you to learn 00:01:32.692 --> 00:01:36.061 and participate live with us right from your classroom. 00:01:36.061 --> 00:01:37.864 Throughout the program, there will be polls for you 00:01:37.864 --> 00:01:40.800 to vote on that help inform our story. 00:01:40.800 --> 00:01:43.103 Shortly, we'll be joined by World War II expert 00:01:43.103 --> 00:01:45.371 and museum historian Dr. Rob Citino, 00:01:45.371 --> 00:01:47.540 who'll be providing insights 00:01:47.540 --> 00:01:49.909 and answering some of your questions. 00:01:49.909 --> 00:01:51.510 If you're watching on the museum website, 00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:53.246 you can ask questions and answer polls 00:01:53.246 --> 00:01:55.414 in the box directly below this screen 00:01:55.414 --> 00:02:02.088 line:0% or you can go to slido.com and type in the code #S085 00:02:02.088 --> 00:02:04.324 line:0% to join in the conversation. 00:02:04.324 --> 00:02:07.093 Captioning for this program is also available below. 00:02:07.093 --> 00:02:09.261 You'll also meet our two excellent student reporters 00:02:09.261 --> 00:02:12.431 Mizani Ball here in New Orleans and Maceo Carney, 00:02:12.431 --> 00:02:14.900 broadcasting from California's Bay Area. 00:02:14.900 --> 00:02:16.870 They are exploring important sites, 00:02:16.870 --> 00:02:18.571 checking out historic artifacts, 00:02:18.571 --> 00:02:22.141 and talking to very special guests along the way. 00:02:22.141 --> 00:02:23.709 Before we take this coast-to-coast trip 00:02:23.709 --> 00:02:25.211 with Maceo and Mizani, 00:02:25.211 --> 00:02:28.247 we begin our story with a date which will live in infamy -- 00:02:28.247 --> 00:02:30.616 December 7th, 1941. 00:02:30.616 --> 00:02:32.718 It's a day that shocked our nation 00:02:32.718 --> 00:02:34.386 when Japan launched a surprise attack 00:02:34.386 --> 00:02:36.656 on the U.S. Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor. 00:02:36.656 --> 00:02:39.692 The next day, Congress declared war. 00:02:39.692 --> 00:02:42.361 In addition to the Japanese expansion in the Pacific, 00:02:42.361 --> 00:02:44.563 the Allies fought to stop the spread of Fascism 00:02:44.563 --> 00:02:47.767 as Nazi Germany took control of large parts of Europe. 00:02:47.767 --> 00:02:49.469 The country's military and defense industry 00:02:49.469 --> 00:02:52.738 mobilized to fight and support a global conflict. 00:02:52.738 --> 00:02:54.774 Our factories buzzed around the clock 00:02:54.774 --> 00:02:57.610 and our military swelled to millions of Americans. 00:02:57.610 --> 00:03:01.347 Starting our exploration today is reporter Mizani Ball 00:03:01.347 --> 00:03:03.649 who is in the museum's Arsenal of Democracy exhibit 00:03:03.649 --> 00:03:06.019 to learn about the build-up of our war industries 00:03:06.019 --> 00:03:07.586 and what these expanded opportunities 00:03:07.586 --> 00:03:09.122 meant for black Americans. 00:03:09.122 --> 00:03:11.724 But first, let's take a look at the opening poll question. 00:03:22.435 --> 00:03:25.204 line:0% +We'll reveal the answer once we return. 00:03:25.204 --> 00:03:28.374 line:0% Okay, take it away, Mizani. 00:03:28.374 --> 00:03:30.576 line:0% -Hi, my name is Mizani Ball and, right now, 00:03:30.576 --> 00:03:32.211 line:0% I'm with educator Shelbie Johnson 00:03:32.211 --> 00:03:35.748 line:0% in the museum's newest exhibit, the Arsenal of Democracy: 00:03:35.748 --> 00:03:38.884 line:0% The Herman and George Brown Salute to the Home Front. 00:03:38.884 --> 00:03:40.119 line:0% -Welcome, Mizani. 00:03:40.119 --> 00:03:41.687 line:0% I brought you to the exhibit today, 00:03:41.687 --> 00:03:45.291 line:0% so we can talk more about discrimination in factories. 00:03:45.291 --> 00:03:48.727 Now we were in a time of war, so jobs were plentiful, 00:03:48.727 --> 00:03:52.131 they were easy to come by for both men and women, 00:03:52.131 --> 00:03:55.000 but this wasn't the case for African-Americans. 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.438 If you were African-American, it was very unlikely 00:03:58.438 --> 00:04:00.740 that you could easily get a job. 00:04:00.740 --> 00:04:02.541 Even white labor unions 00:04:02.541 --> 00:04:06.145 protested the employment of African-Americans 00:04:06.145 --> 00:04:09.481 and, sometimes, white employees would actually resort 00:04:09.481 --> 00:04:11.283 to violence against African-Americans 00:04:11.283 --> 00:04:13.186 who were applying for these jobs. 00:04:13.186 --> 00:04:16.255 -Now did anyone speak out about this and how? 00:04:16.255 --> 00:04:17.423 -Yes. 00:04:17.423 --> 00:04:19.925 There were protests all over the country. 00:04:19.925 --> 00:04:23.262 One that's really famous that never really took off 00:04:23.262 --> 00:04:27.399 line:0% was one that was proposed by a man named A. Phillip Randolph. 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:33.005 line:0% He organized 100,000 railroad workers to march on Washington. 00:04:33.005 --> 00:04:36.376 line:0% The reason he did this, he felt that the federal government 00:04:36.376 --> 00:04:38.344 line:0% wasn't really taking a stand 00:04:38.344 --> 00:04:41.647 line:0% against this discrimination in hiring practices. 00:04:41.647 --> 00:04:46.152 line:0% President Roosevelt eventually yielded to Randolph's demand, 00:04:46.152 --> 00:04:48.420 line:0% so the protests didn't take off. 00:04:48.420 --> 00:04:53.859 line:0% Instead, President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 8802, 00:04:53.859 --> 00:04:58.264 line:0% which made it illegal to have discriminatory hiring practices 00:04:58.264 --> 00:05:01.267 line:0% if you were a factory that had a wartime contract 00:05:01.267 --> 00:05:02.601 line:0% with the government. 00:05:02.601 --> 00:05:04.771 line:0% Let's take a look at this poster here. 00:05:04.771 --> 00:05:07.540 line:0% This is a poster that was issued by the government 00:05:07.540 --> 00:05:11.443 line:0% to enforce Executive Order 8802. 00:05:11.443 --> 00:05:13.279 line:0% What do you notice here? 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.482 line:0% -Well, instantly, I notice the black worker 00:05:16.482 --> 00:05:18.951 line:0% and the white worker working together, 00:05:18.951 --> 00:05:22.822 line:0% which kind of symbolizes the "United we win". 00:05:22.822 --> 00:05:26.459 line:0% And then, I also the American flag in the background. 00:05:26.459 --> 00:05:30.630 line:0% -Yes, so what do you think the overall message is here? 00:05:30.630 --> 00:05:33.599 line:0% -I feel like the overall message here on this poster 00:05:33.599 --> 00:05:39.672 line:0% is saying that we can come together and work together 00:05:39.672 --> 00:05:42.041 line:0% and get things done 00:05:42.041 --> 00:05:45.978 line:0% and that segregation really isn't the way to go. 00:05:45.978 --> 00:05:49.315 line:0% -Yes, that appears to be the overall message here, 00:05:49.315 --> 00:05:53.753 line:0% but we have to remember, this wasn't the reality in factories. 00:05:53.753 --> 00:05:57.889 line:0% During the war years, we were living in a time of both legal 00:05:57.889 --> 00:06:00.159 line:0% and de facto segregation. 00:06:00.159 --> 00:06:02.495 line:0% Now, when we think of legal segregation, 00:06:02.495 --> 00:06:04.597 line:0% we're thinking of the Jim Crow laws, 00:06:04.597 --> 00:06:06.499 line:0% things that were on the books, 00:06:06.499 --> 00:06:11.404 line:0% but de facto segregation was more social, the status quo, 00:06:11.404 --> 00:06:13.573 line:0% what people found as normal. 00:06:13.573 --> 00:06:18.144 line:0% So once these African-Americans were hired into factories, 00:06:18.144 --> 00:06:21.714 they could still be segregated in the workplace, 00:06:21.714 --> 00:06:25.050 so this wouldn't be a typical image of a black man 00:06:25.050 --> 00:06:27.386 and a white man working together. 00:06:27.386 --> 00:06:30.723 In addition, African-Americans were discriminated against 00:06:30.723 --> 00:06:33.492 and segregated in cafeterias, 00:06:33.492 --> 00:06:36.195 even in entrances into the building, 00:06:36.195 --> 00:06:40.533 and when factories did provide housing to their employees, 00:06:40.533 --> 00:06:43.569 they would even segregate the African-American 00:06:43.569 --> 00:06:45.771 and white employees that way. 00:06:45.771 --> 00:06:48.741 Now let's go over and take a look at another poster 00:06:48.741 --> 00:06:52.211 that shows us Pearl Harbor survivor Obie Bartlett. 00:06:52.211 --> 00:06:54.013 What do you see? 00:06:54.013 --> 00:06:58.451 -Now I see Obie working with a tool in his hand 00:06:58.451 --> 00:07:00.153 and he's missing an arm 00:07:00.153 --> 00:07:02.220 and I know he served in the military 00:07:02.220 --> 00:07:06.692 before getting injured at the attack on Pearl Harbor 00:07:06.692 --> 00:07:13.332 and it says here that he takes his job in the factory 00:07:13.332 --> 00:07:17.269 as serious as his time in the war 00:07:17.269 --> 00:07:20.606 and then it also says, "Twice a patriot", 00:07:20.606 --> 00:07:22.208 which kind of means, for me, 00:07:22.208 --> 00:07:25.511 that, even though he's African-American 00:07:25.511 --> 00:07:30.049 and he's an injured veteran, he still matters. 00:07:30.049 --> 00:07:33.118 -So what do you think the overall message is here 00:07:33.118 --> 00:07:35.154 to African-Americans? 00:07:35.154 --> 00:07:36.889 -I think the overall message here 00:07:36.889 --> 00:07:39.958 is to reinforce to African-Americans 00:07:39.958 --> 00:07:43.196 that working in a factory is critical to winning the war 00:07:43.196 --> 00:07:46.832 and that, like you and Obie, 00:07:46.832 --> 00:07:48.634 we have to make sacrifices 00:07:48.634 --> 00:07:52.204 in order to benefit the global struggle. 00:07:52.204 --> 00:07:55.541 -Yes, that's exactly correct, and African-Americans 00:07:55.541 --> 00:07:58.277 here in the United States often received 00:07:58.277 --> 00:08:02.280 mixed messaging like this because, on the one hand, 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:05.217 this poster is telling you it's your patriotic duty 00:08:05.217 --> 00:08:06.785 to work in a factory, 00:08:06.785 --> 00:08:09.688 but on the other hand, as I told you earlier, 00:08:09.688 --> 00:08:11.924 African-Americans were discriminated against 00:08:11.924 --> 00:08:13.859 in the work place. 00:08:13.859 --> 00:08:18.364 Now, African-Americans did have some progress in factories. 00:08:18.364 --> 00:08:19.832 At the beginning of the war, 00:08:19.832 --> 00:08:22.501 we had about 500,000 African-Americans 00:08:22.501 --> 00:08:24.570 working in defense jobs. 00:08:24.570 --> 00:08:27.039 By the end of the war, we had approximately 00:08:27.039 --> 00:08:32.077 1.5 million African-Americans working in these defense jobs. 00:08:32.077 --> 00:08:34.280 Now, even though they were employed, 00:08:34.280 --> 00:08:38.784 they weren't always receiving the best jobs or the best pay, 00:08:38.784 --> 00:08:40.752 so they were still being discriminated 00:08:40.752 --> 00:08:43.055 against in the work place. 00:08:47.259 --> 00:08:49.462 line:0% -Okay, let's take a look at the answer 00:08:49.462 --> 00:08:51.864 line:0% to our first poll question. 00:08:59.004 --> 00:09:01.407 line:0% And the answer is true. 00:09:01.407 --> 00:09:04.744 line:0% As your heard Shelbie in the last segment... 00:09:13.419 --> 00:09:16.555 To get a bit more insight about war work on the home front, 00:09:16.555 --> 00:09:18.591 let me welcome in Dr. Rob Citino, 00:09:18.591 --> 00:09:22.528 the Samuel Zemurray Stone Senior Historian here at the Museum. 00:09:22.528 --> 00:09:25.064 So Shelbie and Mizani were exploring the Museum's 00:09:25.064 --> 00:09:26.732 Arsenal of Democracy exhibit. 00:09:26.732 --> 00:09:28.400 What exactly does that mean? 00:09:28.400 --> 00:09:29.902 -Well, Damon, first of all, it's great to be here with you. 00:09:29.902 --> 00:09:31.203 I think we have a great show 00:09:31.203 --> 00:09:33.171 and there's a lot of great material to talk about. 00:09:33.171 --> 00:09:35.741 It's going to be an interesting class. 00:09:35.741 --> 00:09:37.242 We use the phrase "Arsenal of Democracy" 00:09:37.242 --> 00:09:38.844 and that's what Franklin Roosevelt said 00:09:38.844 --> 00:09:41.480 line:0% in a speech, even before America got involved in the war. 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.415 line:0% What Arsenal of Democracy implies is 00:09:43.415 --> 00:09:46.318 line:0% that America not only had the ability, 00:09:46.318 --> 00:09:49.455 line:0% but also the duty to produce weapons and material 00:09:49.455 --> 00:09:52.792 to fight the forces of dictatorship abroad. 00:09:52.792 --> 00:09:54.827 Now, that's not just to defend the United States, 00:09:54.827 --> 00:09:57.229 but also to defend our allies. 00:09:57.229 --> 00:09:59.664 I'm thinking primarily here of the British, 00:09:59.664 --> 00:10:01.066 even then locked in a life-or-death 00:10:01.066 --> 00:10:02.501 struggle with the Nazis. 00:10:02.501 --> 00:10:04.636 And if the British went down, that was going to be a very, 00:10:04.636 --> 00:10:06.906 very difficult series of conquests 00:10:06.906 --> 00:10:09.675 on the part of Adolf Hitler to roll back for the United States. 00:10:09.675 --> 00:10:11.477 So it made good sense to help out friends 00:10:11.477 --> 00:10:13.445 and, at the same time, make sure that we were 00:10:13.445 --> 00:10:14.714 defending ourselves adequately 00:10:14.714 --> 00:10:16.515 against this threat that we found abroad. 00:10:16.515 --> 00:10:17.983 -Wow. 00:10:17.983 --> 00:10:21.020 You know, turning to here in New Orleans, 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:23.222 one of the more notable defense companies in the city 00:10:23.222 --> 00:10:24.724 was Higgins Industries. 00:10:24.724 --> 00:10:26.325 What did they produce during World War II? 00:10:26.325 --> 00:10:27.959 -So, that's a good one to answer, Damon, 00:10:27.959 --> 00:10:29.161 because they produced 00:10:29.161 --> 00:10:30.562 just about everything that the U.S. Military 00:10:30.562 --> 00:10:32.364 and especially the Navy asked for. 00:10:32.364 --> 00:10:36.235 But perhaps this is the iconic item that they produced. 00:10:36.235 --> 00:10:40.172 line:0% This is a landing craft, vehicle, personnel -- LCVP. 00:10:40.172 --> 00:10:43.175 line:0% The military gives everything in initials, of course, 00:10:43.175 --> 00:10:45.711 line:0% but better known as the Higgins boat. 00:10:45.711 --> 00:10:49.248 line:0% What happens is this craft sails up to the shore, 00:10:49.248 --> 00:10:50.616 the ramp comes down, 00:10:50.616 --> 00:10:53.719 and then troops or vehicles pour off the ramp 00:10:53.719 --> 00:10:55.520 onto the beach ready to fight. 00:10:55.520 --> 00:10:59.691 So, Adolf Hitler famously said Higgins was the new Noah, 00:10:59.691 --> 00:11:01.127 that is he took entire armies 00:11:01.127 --> 00:11:02.995 and put them on these landing craft. 00:11:02.995 --> 00:11:05.464 Without the Higgins boat, it's impossible to imagine 00:11:05.464 --> 00:11:07.433 the United States fighting the war that it did. 00:11:07.433 --> 00:11:09.168 And so, when you look here, 00:11:09.168 --> 00:11:12.103 you're really looking at the iconic 00:11:12.103 --> 00:11:14.273 U.S. naval craft of World War II. 00:11:14.273 --> 00:11:16.342 Photos of D-Day or any amphibious landing, 00:11:16.342 --> 00:11:18.410 you're going to get your share of Higgins boats. 00:11:18.410 --> 00:11:21.013 My father landed in one on Guadalcanal in 1942, in fact. 00:11:21.013 --> 00:11:23.148 -Wow. That's amazing. 00:11:23.148 --> 00:11:26.285 So did these new jobs at Higgins mean expanded opportunities 00:11:26.285 --> 00:11:28.320 for New Orleanians or black Americans? 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:29.921 -Absolutely. 00:11:29.921 --> 00:11:32.424 It's fun to talk about the equipment and I love to do it, 00:11:32.424 --> 00:11:34.760 but I can take you through every tank and every naval craft 00:11:34.760 --> 00:11:35.961 in World War II, 00:11:35.961 --> 00:11:38.596 but I think the bigger story here is that 00:11:38.596 --> 00:11:40.198 Higgins Industries -- 00:11:40.198 --> 00:11:43.101 Andrew Higgins, the owner, had a very, very good record. 00:11:43.101 --> 00:11:45.337 What he realized, if you wanted to be efficient, 00:11:45.337 --> 00:11:46.972 you wanted to produce efficiently, 00:11:46.972 --> 00:11:49.141 you had to treat all your workers equally, 00:11:49.141 --> 00:11:51.610 so black, white, male, female, 00:11:51.610 --> 00:11:53.445 even those with physical disability, 00:11:53.445 --> 00:11:55.781 all were paid pretty much by the work they were doing 00:11:55.781 --> 00:11:57.849 and their work classification at Higgins 00:11:57.849 --> 00:12:00.485 and that's quite something 00:12:00.485 --> 00:12:02.888 given the tenor of the times we were living in. 00:12:02.888 --> 00:12:05.191 Legal segregation down here in South 00:12:05.191 --> 00:12:08.060 and all sorts of forms of non-legal, 00:12:08.060 --> 00:12:11.496 but, nevertheless, very serious segregation up north. 00:12:11.496 --> 00:12:13.999 So, you know, at the beginning Higgins had a single plan 00:12:13.999 --> 00:12:15.967 of employing a few hundred workers. 00:12:15.967 --> 00:12:21.606 By the end, seven big plants, 20,000 workers, 24/7/365. 00:12:21.606 --> 00:12:23.642 Americans pulling together for the war effort. 00:12:23.642 --> 00:12:25.377 Without companies like Higgins, 00:12:25.377 --> 00:12:27.146 we have a very hard time winning this war. 00:12:27.146 --> 00:12:29.548 -Yeah, that's incredible information. 00:12:29.548 --> 00:12:32.151 So let's go to some student questions. 00:12:32.151 --> 00:12:34.253 -Sure. -And we got a few of them. 00:12:34.253 --> 00:12:38.824 line:0% So, here's the first one from Magoffin County High School. 00:12:44.763 --> 00:12:45.931 line:0% -It's a good question. 00:12:45.931 --> 00:12:47.366 line:0% It takes us to that -- there's a term today 00:12:47.366 --> 00:12:48.434 line:0% called "intersectionality", 00:12:48.434 --> 00:12:51.970 line:0% how discriminated against you are. 00:12:51.970 --> 00:12:53.805 African-American women are really getting hit 00:12:53.805 --> 00:12:55.107 from two directions. 00:12:55.107 --> 00:12:56.942 You might say that there's the discrimination 00:12:56.942 --> 00:13:00.478 they're receiving on the race question, racial discrimination, 00:13:00.478 --> 00:13:02.447 but there's also the discrimination 00:13:02.447 --> 00:13:06.351 they're experiencing as women, so I can say I think 00:13:06.351 --> 00:13:08.086 and probably give examples of the way 00:13:08.086 --> 00:13:10.522 that African-American women -- we tend to say, 00:13:10.522 --> 00:13:12.991 "African-Americans -- last hired, first fired", 00:13:12.991 --> 00:13:15.460 but that might be particularly true of African-American women 00:13:15.460 --> 00:13:17.563 who are kind of getting hit by that double whammy. 00:13:17.563 --> 00:13:18.730 -Wow. 00:13:18.730 --> 00:13:19.998 line:0% Well, let's go to another question. 00:13:19.998 --> 00:13:21.099 line:0% -By all means. 00:13:21.099 --> 00:13:22.701 line:0% We can stand here and do this, though. 00:13:22.701 --> 00:13:25.137 line:0% -This is from the same school. 00:13:28.040 --> 00:13:29.408 line:0% -Sure. 00:13:29.408 --> 00:13:32.210 line:0% De facto segregation -- so, I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, 00:13:32.210 --> 00:13:34.112 so this would be the North and this would be the land 00:13:34.112 --> 00:13:37.116 of not Jim Crow, but de facto segregation. 00:13:37.116 --> 00:13:39.717 So there's no law that says whites and blacks 00:13:39.717 --> 00:13:42.087 have to have separate facilities in Cleveland, Ohio 00:13:42.087 --> 00:13:44.156 where I grew up, but, nevertheless, 00:13:44.156 --> 00:13:46.291 whites and blacks do have separate facilities. 00:13:46.291 --> 00:13:49.261 There are secret arrangements on the part of realtors 00:13:49.261 --> 00:13:50.896 as to who they will sell a home to 00:13:50.896 --> 00:13:52.630 and who they won't sell a home to 00:13:52.630 --> 00:13:55.600 and what you wind up with are segregated neighborhoods, 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:59.070 but without the force of law, but rather the force of custom. 00:13:59.070 --> 00:14:02.174 And, you know, that's a problem because you can change a law. 00:14:02.174 --> 00:14:04.142 You can go to Congress and get a law changed, 00:14:04.142 --> 00:14:06.945 but what's much more difficult is to change people's hearts, 00:14:06.945 --> 00:14:09.548 to change people's habits, to change people's culture. 00:14:09.548 --> 00:14:10.749 -Wow. 00:14:10.749 --> 00:14:12.184 -By the way, I must say, that's some school. 00:14:12.184 --> 00:14:14.453 -Yeah, so similar things were happening in both locations, 00:14:14.453 --> 00:14:18.657 just down here in the South it was open and it was legal. 00:14:18.657 --> 00:14:22.460 -As a dino northerner, I never try to be too brutal 00:14:22.460 --> 00:14:23.929 in my comments about the South, 00:14:23.929 --> 00:14:26.098 because the same things were happening all over the country, 00:14:26.098 --> 00:14:29.334 simply without the force of law as they were here in the South. 00:14:29.334 --> 00:14:30.836 -Thanks, Rob. 00:14:30.836 --> 00:14:33.071 Well, next time we'll venture to the World War II boomtown 00:14:33.071 --> 00:14:34.706 of Richmond, California. 00:14:34.706 --> 00:14:36.742 The war industry there was heavily influenced 00:14:36.742 --> 00:14:37.976 by Henry Kaiser, 00:14:37.976 --> 00:14:40.713 who operated four shipyards in the city. 00:14:40.713 --> 00:14:43.014 Kaiser also built housing, hospitals, 00:14:43.014 --> 00:14:45.016 and childcare centers to support this rapidly 00:14:45.016 --> 00:14:48.253 expanding population flocking to the city for jobs. 00:14:48.253 --> 00:14:50.522 Our student reporter Maceo is there to learn 00:14:50.522 --> 00:14:52.691 about these new employment opportunities, 00:14:52.691 --> 00:14:55.494 but first, let's take a look at the next poll question. 00:15:11.844 --> 00:15:15.147 line:0% Now let's go to Maceo at a notable national park 00:15:15.147 --> 00:15:17.149 line:0% as he interviews a true national treasure 00:15:17.149 --> 00:15:21.386 line:0% who both made and interprets history in her town. 00:15:21.386 --> 00:15:28.527 line:0% ♪♪ 00:15:28.527 --> 00:15:35.634 line:0% ♪♪ 00:15:35.634 --> 00:15:37.535 line:0% -Hey, everyone. My name is Maceo Carney. 00:15:37.535 --> 00:15:39.871 line:0% And I go to school right here in the Bay Area. 00:15:39.871 --> 00:15:42.274 line:0% Today I'm taking you to sites around northern California 00:15:42.274 --> 00:15:45.010 line:0% to learn a bit more about African-Americans 00:15:45.010 --> 00:15:46.512 line:0% during World War II. 00:15:46.512 --> 00:15:48.880 line:0% We're here at a really neat national park, 00:15:48.880 --> 00:15:51.016 line:0% the Rosie the Riveter World War II 00:15:51.016 --> 00:15:52.718 line:0% Home Front National Historic Park 00:15:52.718 --> 00:15:54.686 line:0% in Richmond, California to discover more. 00:15:54.686 --> 00:15:56.254 line:0% The Rosie The Riveter 00:15:56.254 --> 00:15:59.291 line:0% World War II Home Front National Historic Park 00:15:59.291 --> 00:16:01.526 line:0% tells the story of millions of Americans 00:16:01.526 --> 00:16:04.129 line:0% who mobilized after the attack on Pearl Harbor 00:16:04.129 --> 00:16:06.098 line:0% to support the war effort, 00:16:06.098 --> 00:16:09.034 line:0% causing shifts in our society and our culture. 00:16:09.034 --> 00:16:13.004 line:0% Despite being united in a common purpose of defeating the Axis, 00:16:13.004 --> 00:16:16.274 not all Americans received fair or equal treatment, 00:16:16.274 --> 00:16:19.444 even with plentiful new employment opportunities. 00:16:19.444 --> 00:16:23.115 To share the mission and stories of this park, along with her own 00:16:23.115 --> 00:16:26.284 World War II story, is Betty Reid Soskin, 00:16:26.284 --> 00:16:29.221 who is the oldest active U.S. Park Ranger. 00:16:29.221 --> 00:16:31.489 Thanks for joining us today, Betty. 00:16:31.489 --> 00:16:33.992 If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? 00:16:33.992 --> 00:16:37.729 -I'm 95 and will be 96 in September. 00:16:37.729 --> 00:16:41.500 -How long have you been working at the Rosie the Riveter site? 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:45.403 line:0% -I came here in the year 2003, 00:16:45.403 --> 00:16:48.339 line:0% as a consultant to the National Park Service. 00:16:48.339 --> 00:16:52.210 line:0% I became a ranger 10 years ago. 00:16:52.210 --> 00:16:54.613 line:0% -Betty, why exactly was Richmond, California 00:16:54.613 --> 00:16:57.549 line:0% chosen as the site for this national park? 00:16:57.549 --> 00:17:01.220 line:0% -Well, though they were many, many boomtowns 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:05.524 line:0% throughout the country around different plants, 00:17:05.524 --> 00:17:07.993 it was only here in Richmond 00:17:07.993 --> 00:17:10.362 there were enough still-standing structures 00:17:10.362 --> 00:17:15.167 related to that era through which to interpret the history. 00:17:15.167 --> 00:17:18.570 Everywhere else, they'd been redeveloped out of existence. 00:17:18.570 --> 00:17:22.807 Here in Richmond, though these sites were not revered 00:17:22.807 --> 00:17:25.744 as historic landmarks, 00:17:25.744 --> 00:17:28.413 this was a city that was a very poor city 00:17:28.413 --> 00:17:29.748 that couldn't afford to knock them down 00:17:29.748 --> 00:17:33.352 and put something else up. 00:17:33.352 --> 00:17:37.189 The signs of the Richmond Shipyards were still here. 00:17:37.189 --> 00:17:40.826 All of that history was still evident in the city of Richmond, 00:17:40.826 --> 00:17:43.861 so it became the only place in the country 00:17:43.861 --> 00:17:45.363 through which you could interpret that history 00:17:45.363 --> 00:17:47.465 with any kind of accuracy. 00:17:47.465 --> 00:17:49.100 -Lots of new jobs in Richmond, 00:17:49.100 --> 00:17:51.236 but not for all Americans, right? 00:17:51.236 --> 00:17:52.771 -That's right. 00:17:52.771 --> 00:17:57.776 line:0% That's right, except that Henry Kaiser 00:17:57.776 --> 00:18:00.946 line:0% for his four Kaiser Shipyards 00:18:00.946 --> 00:18:07.653 line:0% imported a workforce of 98,000 black and white southerners 00:18:07.653 --> 00:18:10.222 out of the five Southern states of Mississippi, 00:18:10.222 --> 00:18:14.893 Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, and Louisiana. 00:18:14.893 --> 00:18:17.362 These were whites coming off the Dust Bowl 00:18:17.362 --> 00:18:22.000 and blacks coming up from the slow mechanization of cotton. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.037 Everybody recovering from the Great Depression of the '30s. 00:18:26.037 --> 00:18:27.406 Possible for a black man 00:18:27.406 --> 00:18:30.108 to be standing on the sidewalk in Jackson, Mississippi 00:18:30.108 --> 00:18:32.077 where southern tradition would demand 00:18:32.077 --> 00:18:35.380 that he not only not make eye contact with a white person, 00:18:35.380 --> 00:18:38.016 but that he also step into the gutter 00:18:38.016 --> 00:18:40.218 if a white person approached. 00:18:40.218 --> 00:18:43.021 That man could find himself tapped on the shoulder 00:18:43.021 --> 00:18:46.424 by a Kaiser recruiter and find himself two weeks later 00:18:46.424 --> 00:18:47.992 in the city of Richmond, 00:18:47.992 --> 00:18:51.329 riding in the front of the bus 10 years before Rosa Parks 00:18:51.329 --> 00:18:54.165 would refuse to give up her seat in Montgomery, Alabama. 00:18:54.165 --> 00:19:00.371 So, here in Richmond, that cauldron that absorbed 00:19:00.371 --> 00:19:05.978 all of those southerners had to deal with it 00:19:05.978 --> 00:19:10.482 without the benefit of focus groups and diversity training. 00:19:10.482 --> 00:19:15.620 They had to all answer the mission of their leader, 00:19:15.620 --> 00:19:17.489 which was, simply, build ships 00:19:17.489 --> 00:19:19.691 faster than the enemy could sink them 00:19:19.691 --> 00:19:24.963 with no time to take on a broken social system. 00:19:24.963 --> 00:19:27.332 They were all living under the common threat 00:19:27.332 --> 00:19:31.603 of fascist world domination, so the black-and-white struggle 00:19:31.603 --> 00:19:33.571 played itself out in the city of Richmond 00:19:33.571 --> 00:19:37.709 in many, many ways, unlike other parts of the country. 00:19:37.709 --> 00:19:41.045 -I see we're sitting next to a sign that says "Double victory". 00:19:41.045 --> 00:19:42.580 What does that mean? 00:19:42.580 --> 00:19:48.420 -You know, it's striking to me that that's so forgotten. 00:19:48.420 --> 00:19:51.389 African-Americans come here 00:19:51.389 --> 00:19:55.560 line:0% and they've never heard of the Double V campaign. 00:19:55.560 --> 00:19:59.297 line:0% And it really was the campaign that set in motion 00:19:59.297 --> 00:20:01.466 line:0% what happened in the '60s. 00:20:01.466 --> 00:20:04.402 line:0% It was actually created by James Thompson, 00:20:04.402 --> 00:20:07.872 line:0% who was a young man in his mid-20s 00:20:07.872 --> 00:20:12.210 line:0% who was due to be drafted into the armed forces 00:20:12.210 --> 00:20:16.080 and who sent in a letter to the Pittsburgh Courier, 00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:18.317 which was probably the most widely 00:20:18.317 --> 00:20:23.087 read black newspaper nationally. 00:20:23.087 --> 00:20:27.258 And he sent it in saying that he was perfectly willing 00:20:27.258 --> 00:20:29.093 to fight for his country, 00:20:29.093 --> 00:20:32.730 but that he thought that there were two battles -- 00:20:32.730 --> 00:20:36.067 that he thought that his people, African-Americans, 00:20:36.067 --> 00:20:37.368 those like us, 00:20:37.368 --> 00:20:40.705 should not only be fighting for victory overseas, 00:20:40.705 --> 00:20:44.209 but they ought to be fighting for justice at home. 00:20:44.209 --> 00:20:49.214 And he encouraged -- that encouraged the creation 00:20:49.214 --> 00:20:50.815 of the Double V campaign 00:20:50.815 --> 00:20:53.985 that was promoted by the Pittsburgh Courier 00:20:53.985 --> 00:20:57.155 and it became, actually, a national movement. 00:20:57.155 --> 00:21:00.692 -Did you see yourself as a Rosie the Riveter during the war? 00:21:00.692 --> 00:21:03.829 -No, I didn't. 00:21:03.829 --> 00:21:06.197 I don't even see myself as that now. 00:21:06.197 --> 00:21:13.471 The country that we were then is not the nation that we have now. 00:21:13.471 --> 00:21:15.940 For instance, I grew up as a child 00:21:15.940 --> 00:21:17.942 with the service workers' generation. 00:21:17.942 --> 00:21:20.512 Our fathers and our uncles were the red caps 00:21:20.512 --> 00:21:22.814 and the pullman porters and the bellhops 00:21:22.814 --> 00:21:25.116 and the janitors and the laborers. 00:21:25.116 --> 00:21:29.720 And our mothers were 50¢-an-hour domestic servants. 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:31.589 But I share that history, 00:21:31.589 --> 00:21:34.325 in order to indicate that being a clerk, 00:21:34.325 --> 00:21:40.298 even in a segregated union hall in 1942, was a step up. 00:21:40.298 --> 00:21:41.867 My folks were really proud of me 00:21:41.867 --> 00:21:44.369 because I wasn't making beds in a hotel. 00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:48.372 I was a clerk, which in 1942 would have been the equivalent 00:21:48.372 --> 00:21:50.242 of today's young woman of color 00:21:50.242 --> 00:21:53.644 being the first in her family to enter college 00:21:53.644 --> 00:21:57.114 because that's how different we were in those years. 00:21:57.114 --> 00:21:59.117 And I hope you can understand that, 00:21:59.117 --> 00:22:02.253 but that's how much social progress 00:22:02.253 --> 00:22:05.023 the country has made over those 70 years. 00:22:05.023 --> 00:22:06.491 You're not living in that world, 00:22:06.491 --> 00:22:10.061 but that's the world I grew up in. 00:22:10.061 --> 00:22:14.599 line:0% At the time that Rosie the Riveter was a campaign 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.468 line:0% to entice women out of their homes 00:22:17.468 --> 00:22:19.837 line:0% into non-traditional labor for the first time, 00:22:19.837 --> 00:22:25.010 line:0% to take the place of the men who are off fighting, 00:22:25.010 --> 00:22:28.046 line:0% that was simply not my story at all. 00:22:28.046 --> 00:22:31.850 line:0% -Betty, before you had mentioned that you had worked as a clerk, 00:22:31.850 --> 00:22:34.919 line:0% could you please specify your jobs as a clerk? 00:22:34.919 --> 00:22:41.192 line:0% -Yeah, I was working for Boilermakers Auxiliary 36. 00:22:41.192 --> 00:22:44.863 line:0% The unions were not yet racially integrated. 00:22:44.863 --> 00:22:47.165 line:0% They wouldn't be another decade. 00:22:47.165 --> 00:22:51.269 line:0% And so, the unions created auxiliaries 00:22:51.269 --> 00:22:53.671 and that's a fancy word for Jim Crow. 00:22:53.671 --> 00:22:56.274 And that was where all the black workers were dumped. 00:22:56.274 --> 00:22:58.176 I came in every day in a car pool. 00:22:58.176 --> 00:23:02.647 I changed addresses on 3x5 file cards of people 00:23:02.647 --> 00:23:04.115 who were constantly in motion 00:23:04.115 --> 00:23:07.752 'cause everyone was trying to get settled into housing 00:23:07.752 --> 00:23:12.123 and I was doing this to save the world for democracy. 00:23:12.123 --> 00:23:14.559 As you can see, it worked. 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.830 It's also true that I had no idea 00:23:18.830 --> 00:23:22.734 what was happening around me. 00:23:22.734 --> 00:23:25.136 I never saw a ship under construction, 00:23:25.136 --> 00:23:27.672 I never saw a ship being launched. 00:23:27.672 --> 00:23:30.475 I was in a temporary building that was torn down immediately 00:23:30.475 --> 00:23:32.243 when the war ended. 00:23:32.243 --> 00:23:33.912 At 20, I was -- what -- 00:23:33.912 --> 00:23:37.048 maybe four years older than you are, five years. 00:23:39.817 --> 00:23:41.853 I was not much more than a child, 00:23:41.853 --> 00:23:46.524 slightly out of adolescence. 00:23:46.524 --> 00:23:48.593 The larger political issues were not a part 00:23:48.593 --> 00:23:53.097 of my life at the time. 00:23:53.097 --> 00:23:56.568 I only could see what was around me 00:23:56.568 --> 00:23:59.538 and that was that little union hall. 00:23:59.538 --> 00:24:01.706 -Why do you think it's important for Americans 00:24:01.706 --> 00:24:04.609 to remember all of these home front stories? 00:24:04.609 --> 00:24:10.348 -Because it's out of who we have been 00:24:10.348 --> 00:24:13.451 that has determined who we're going to be. 00:24:13.451 --> 00:24:15.253 The future's based on the past 00:24:15.253 --> 00:24:17.956 and we have encapsulated our past 00:24:17.956 --> 00:24:20.592 in this series of national parks. 00:24:20.592 --> 00:24:22.861 One could educate themselves 00:24:22.861 --> 00:24:24.963 by traveling through the national parks 00:24:24.963 --> 00:24:27.665 of which there are now over 400. 00:24:27.665 --> 00:24:30.902 I think it is the greatest gift for ourselves. 00:24:32.904 --> 00:24:37.976 And it is important, especially for African-American children, 00:24:37.976 --> 00:24:40.412 to go back and walk through the past 00:24:40.412 --> 00:24:43.681 because we've been left out of a lot of history, 00:24:43.681 --> 00:24:47.151 but we can reconstruct it and that's what we're doing. 00:24:47.151 --> 00:24:49.187 That's what we're doing here. 00:24:49.187 --> 00:24:52.090 -These historic sites spread throughout all of Richmond 00:24:52.090 --> 00:24:54.892 remind us of the tremendous economic, social, 00:24:54.892 --> 00:24:58.429 and cultural changes on the U. S. home front 00:24:58.429 --> 00:24:59.997 brought about by the war. 00:24:59.997 --> 00:25:02.066 These changes had a lasting effect 00:25:02.066 --> 00:25:04.468 on the fabric of American society 00:25:04.468 --> 00:25:08.673 and exposed unity and division and harmony and disparity 00:25:08.673 --> 00:25:10.976 within our diverse country. 00:25:13.578 --> 00:25:15.247 line:0% -Wow, an amazing woman. 00:25:15.247 --> 00:25:17.181 line:0% Thank you, Maceo and Betty. 00:25:17.181 --> 00:25:20.285 line:0% Now let's check out the answer to the last poll question. 00:25:24.889 --> 00:25:27.259 line:0% Amazingly, the answer is D. 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.401 line:0% Now, Betty mentioned the story of Rosa Parks 00:25:37.401 --> 00:25:39.370 line:0% and the Montgomery Bus Boycott. 00:25:39.370 --> 00:25:40.972 line:0% Let's bring in Rob Citino to share with us 00:25:40.972 --> 00:25:42.841 line:0% to share the story of another bus rider 00:25:42.841 --> 00:25:46.310 line:0% who took a stand when he was ordered to go to the back. 00:25:46.310 --> 00:25:47.912 -So, a little show-and-tell time, Damon. 00:25:47.912 --> 00:25:49.814 I have a baseball card. What are we looking at? 00:25:49.814 --> 00:25:52.483 -Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. 00:25:52.483 --> 00:25:54.719 He was one of the best in the MLB, 00:25:54.719 --> 00:25:56.921 racking up accolades like Rookie of the Year 00:25:56.921 --> 00:25:58.490 and National League MVP, 00:25:58.490 --> 00:26:00.191 all while his team, the Brooklyn Dodgers, 00:26:00.191 --> 00:26:02.627 won six pennants in his 10 seasons. 00:26:02.627 --> 00:26:04.729 -You know, all true, of course, but there's another story 00:26:04.729 --> 00:26:06.131 to tell about Jackie Robinson. 00:26:06.131 --> 00:26:09.633 A few years before he became the baseball icon 00:26:09.633 --> 00:26:13.504 that he became, he was also in the U.S. Army. 00:26:13.504 --> 00:26:15.806 He was in the 761st Tank Battalion in World War II 00:26:15.806 --> 00:26:20.611 and he refused to go to the back of the bus while riding on base. 00:26:20.611 --> 00:26:22.580 He was court martialed, that is, put on trial 00:26:22.580 --> 00:26:25.984 for breaking the laws of the U.S. Army at the time. 00:26:25.984 --> 00:26:27.552 He managed to go public with this story, 00:26:27.552 --> 00:26:29.320 went to the Pittsburgh Courier, 00:26:29.320 --> 00:26:31.022 one of the great African-American newspapers 00:26:31.022 --> 00:26:34.725 of the day, and won defenders in other newspapers, as well, 00:26:34.725 --> 00:26:36.694 and he got his story out. 00:26:36.694 --> 00:26:39.697 The charges were dropped and eventually Jackie was acquitted 00:26:39.697 --> 00:26:43.902 of all those charges and discharged from the Army. 00:26:43.902 --> 00:26:45.270 But, you know, a shout-out, too, 00:26:45.270 --> 00:26:48.072 to that unit, the 761st Tank Battalion. 00:26:48.072 --> 00:26:49.574 They were in combat 00:26:49.574 --> 00:26:51.108 almost constantly during World War II -- 00:26:51.108 --> 00:26:52.577 an African-American unit, 00:26:52.577 --> 00:26:56.581 138 straight days at the front, in contact with the Germans. 00:26:56.581 --> 00:26:57.749 I don't know if it's a record, 00:26:57.749 --> 00:26:58.916 but it's certainly something, though. 00:26:58.916 --> 00:27:00.852 It's something worthy of an accolade. 00:27:00.852 --> 00:27:03.721 They went by the nickname, a name much in the news nowadays, 00:27:03.721 --> 00:27:04.789 they were the Black Panthers. 00:27:04.789 --> 00:27:06.224 -It's okay. [ Chuckles ] 00:27:06.224 --> 00:27:09.193 -And just fought as well as any unit 00:27:09.193 --> 00:27:11.796 in the entire U.S. Army in World War II, so... 00:27:11.796 --> 00:27:13.231 You know, that's the kind of story 00:27:13.231 --> 00:27:14.566 we're trying to tell here today. 00:27:14.566 --> 00:27:17.035 There's a view of combat in World War II 00:27:17.035 --> 00:27:18.769 that largely emphasizes the white soldier. 00:27:18.769 --> 00:27:20.371 We're trying to broaden that picture a little bit today. 00:27:20.371 --> 00:27:22.940 -Yeah, 'cause I know I certainly didn't hear much 00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:24.476 about this unit when I was growing up. 00:27:24.476 --> 00:27:26.611 -Yeah, today you can find a lot of good books 00:27:26.611 --> 00:27:28.446 on the 761st, the Black Panthers. 00:27:28.446 --> 00:27:29.447 -Wow. 00:27:29.447 --> 00:27:31.315 So, an inspiring and courageous story 00:27:31.315 --> 00:27:34.285 of one of America's most highly regarded sports heroes 00:27:34.285 --> 00:27:36.120 and the unit in which he served. 00:27:36.120 --> 00:27:37.988 Let's turn to a couple of questions. 00:27:37.988 --> 00:27:39.958 line:0% -Absolutely. Let's do it. 00:27:39.958 --> 00:27:42.327 line:0% -So, this is from Benjamin. 00:27:44.962 --> 00:27:46.130 line:0% -He sure did. 00:27:46.130 --> 00:27:51.702 line:0% Henry Kaiser is a -- what's the word? 00:27:51.702 --> 00:27:53.171 line:0% A visionary in many ways. 00:27:53.171 --> 00:27:55.973 Not only in terms of building the ships faster, 00:27:55.973 --> 00:27:57.208 more efficiently, 00:27:57.208 --> 00:27:59.010 and churning them out in abundance, 00:27:59.010 --> 00:28:01.312 but also realizing a healthy workforce 00:28:01.312 --> 00:28:03.414 was going to be a more productive workforce. 00:28:03.414 --> 00:28:04.515 And Kaiser Shipbuilding 00:28:04.515 --> 00:28:05.950 was probably the first firm in America 00:28:05.950 --> 00:28:09.620 to have some kind of general health care for their workers. 00:28:09.620 --> 00:28:11.789 The corporation today, Kaiser Permanente, 00:28:11.789 --> 00:28:13.524 which is a massive, nationwide, 00:28:13.524 --> 00:28:15.025 health-care organization 00:28:15.025 --> 00:28:17.862 comes from the care that Kaiser first provided to his workers 00:28:17.862 --> 00:28:19.497 in his Richmond, California facility. 00:28:19.497 --> 00:28:20.799 -That's incredible. 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.600 line:0% Let's go to another question. -Absolutely. 00:28:22.600 --> 00:28:25.503 line:0% -This is from Ms. McGrath. 00:28:29.507 --> 00:28:32.043 line:0% -I think in general you can probably answer this question 00:28:32.043 --> 00:28:34.645 in terms of their male counterparts, as well, 00:28:34.645 --> 00:28:36.915 that by and large African-American workers 00:28:36.915 --> 00:28:41.018 were given more difficult jobs under more difficult conditions, 00:28:41.018 --> 00:28:43.120 perhaps the jobs where you couldn't produce 00:28:43.120 --> 00:28:44.522 such a large number of pieceworks, 00:28:44.522 --> 00:28:46.958 so, de facto, you might be paid a little bit less, 00:28:46.958 --> 00:28:49.594 even though your hourly wage was the same. 00:28:49.594 --> 00:28:50.928 I've mentioned already once, 00:28:50.928 --> 00:28:53.397 it was the sort of "last hired, first fired". 00:28:53.397 --> 00:28:56.968 And so, if you're looking at both women and both race, 00:28:56.968 --> 00:28:58.703 you know, you probably have African-American women 00:28:58.703 --> 00:29:03.108 who occupy that position and so, by virtue of their white skin, 00:29:03.108 --> 00:29:07.011 white women probably a bit up on that hiring-and-firing scale. 00:29:07.011 --> 00:29:09.180 -Wow. Thanks, Rob. 00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:11.616 So, let's reveal our latest poll question. 00:29:26.564 --> 00:29:29.100 Maceo is back at another national park 00:29:29.100 --> 00:29:31.268 to commemorate a tragic day in history 00:29:31.268 --> 00:29:33.271 and reveal its critical legacy. 00:29:36.040 --> 00:29:40.211 line:0% -I'm at the Port Chicago Naval Magazine National Memorial 00:29:40.211 --> 00:29:42.446 line:0% in the San Francisco Bay Area. 00:29:42.446 --> 00:29:46.584 line:0% This site commemorates the 320 lives that were lost 00:29:46.584 --> 00:29:49.153 line:0% in the largest munitions explosion 00:29:49.153 --> 00:29:51.289 line:0% in U.S. naval history. 00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:54.091 line:0% It was the worst disaster to happen here 00:29:54.091 --> 00:29:57.061 line:0% at the home front during World War II. 00:29:57.061 --> 00:29:59.196 line:0% Let's go check out the memorial to understand 00:29:59.196 --> 00:30:02.867 line:0% what happened here on that tragic day in 1944. 00:30:02.867 --> 00:30:08.105 line:0% On July 17, 1944, Navy sailors were loading explosives 00:30:08.105 --> 00:30:11.575 line:0% and ammunition into ships right at this port 00:30:11.575 --> 00:30:15.346 line:0% when a massive explosion occurred at 10:18 p.m., 00:30:15.346 --> 00:30:18.850 line:0% it created a fireball approximately three miles across 00:30:18.850 --> 00:30:22.086 and was felt over 450 miles away. 00:30:22.086 --> 00:30:25.523 Most of the 320 deaths were black sailors 00:30:25.523 --> 00:30:29.093 who were never trained on how to properly load ammunition 00:30:29.093 --> 00:30:31.829 and were pressured by their commanding officers 00:30:31.829 --> 00:30:33.664 to load these dangerous munitions 00:30:33.664 --> 00:30:35.833 as quickly as possible. 00:30:35.833 --> 00:30:37.869 Let's talk with Kelli English, 00:30:37.869 --> 00:30:40.104 who is a National Parks Service Ranger 00:30:40.104 --> 00:30:43.474 here at the site to find out what happened next. 00:30:43.474 --> 00:30:45.876 -Hi, Ranger Kelli. Thanks for joining us today. 00:30:45.876 --> 00:30:48.212 Can you tell me what type of work was going on here 00:30:48.212 --> 00:30:49.981 at Port Chicago during the war? 00:30:49.981 --> 00:30:51.316 line:0% -Absolutely. 00:30:51.316 --> 00:30:53.617 line:0% Here at Port Chicago during the war, 00:30:53.617 --> 00:30:56.220 line:0% even before the attack on Pearl Harbor, 00:30:56.220 --> 00:30:58.989 line:0% the Navy had identified that they needed a place 00:30:58.989 --> 00:31:03.227 line:0% that had deep water to be able to load munitions and munitions 00:31:03.227 --> 00:31:06.731 line:0% are all those huge bombs and missiles and warheads 00:31:06.731 --> 00:31:08.199 line:0% that they would use during the war. 00:31:08.199 --> 00:31:11.669 line:0% And there are only a few locations along the West Coast 00:31:11.669 --> 00:31:13.738 line:0% that had water that was deep enough 00:31:13.738 --> 00:31:16.373 line:0% to be able to have these huge ships come in 00:31:16.373 --> 00:31:17.942 line:0% and be loaded with all of these munitions 00:31:17.942 --> 00:31:20.378 line:0% and so they were already building a facility here 00:31:20.378 --> 00:31:21.779 line:0% at Port Chicago, 00:31:21.779 --> 00:31:24.015 line:0% which was called Port Chicago Naval Magazine 00:31:24.015 --> 00:31:25.416 line:0% and this was the main place 00:31:25.416 --> 00:31:27.684 line:0% where munitions were loaded to go out 00:31:27.684 --> 00:31:30.321 line:0% to what we call the Pacific Theater during the war. 00:31:30.321 --> 00:31:33.123 -Who was working here and what were they doing? 00:31:33.123 --> 00:31:35.660 -Here at Port Chicago many African-American sailors 00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:37.861 who signed up to work with the Navy 00:31:37.861 --> 00:31:40.131 were assigned here to help load munitions 00:31:40.131 --> 00:31:44.035 and the work of loading munitions was extremely dirty 00:31:44.035 --> 00:31:45.436 and it was extremely dangerous 00:31:45.436 --> 00:31:49.673 because these are huge bombs and explosives and warheads 00:31:49.673 --> 00:31:53.077 and it was a really dangerous sort of work. 00:31:53.077 --> 00:31:56.681 And, essentially, you had a situation where you had almost 00:31:56.681 --> 00:31:59.450 an exclusively African-American crew of sailors 00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:03.254 who were doing the most dangerous job in the Navy, 00:32:03.254 --> 00:32:04.788 stateside at least. 00:32:04.788 --> 00:32:08.526 And it was a really, very segregated situation, 00:32:08.526 --> 00:32:11.228 in that it was the African-American sailors 00:32:11.228 --> 00:32:13.197 who were assigned to do the dirtiest, 00:32:13.197 --> 00:32:16.601 most dangerous work and that was pretty consistent 00:32:16.601 --> 00:32:18.903 with military practices at the time. 00:32:18.903 --> 00:32:21.805 Along with segregating like that comes a hierarchy 00:32:21.805 --> 00:32:24.975 of who is considered to be more important 00:32:24.975 --> 00:32:29.647 and, in this case, more expendable or in the sense that, 00:32:29.647 --> 00:32:32.850 if an accident happened with loading munitions, 00:32:32.850 --> 00:32:35.286 "Well, at least, it was only the black sailors that we lost". 00:32:35.286 --> 00:32:37.221 And it's very hard for us to understand 00:32:37.221 --> 00:32:38.656 that today in today's world, 00:32:38.656 --> 00:32:40.591 but that really was the world that existed 00:32:40.591 --> 00:32:42.760 back then in the 1940s. 00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:45.495 line:0% And I should add, too, that this was in the middle 00:32:45.495 --> 00:32:47.598 line:0% of this huge mobilization 00:32:47.598 --> 00:32:50.300 line:0% for trying to get all of these munitions 00:32:50.300 --> 00:32:53.370 line:0% out to the troops overseas as fast as possible. 00:32:53.370 --> 00:32:57.274 line:0% And so, the white officers would even have races with each other, 00:32:57.274 --> 00:33:00.077 like they were racing to see whose unit could load 00:33:00.077 --> 00:33:02.746 the most munitions the fastest. 00:33:02.746 --> 00:33:04.148 Here at Port Chicago, they were racing 00:33:04.148 --> 00:33:05.750 with some of the other operations 00:33:05.750 --> 00:33:07.551 in the Bay Area like at Mare Island 00:33:07.551 --> 00:33:10.521 and other loading areas across the Bay. 00:33:10.521 --> 00:33:15.526 And so, they were not paying any attention whatsoever 00:33:15.526 --> 00:33:17.662 to safety practices. 00:33:17.662 --> 00:33:20.698 -What were the conditions like at work? 00:33:20.698 --> 00:33:23.266 -Well, it was pretty hot [ Chuckles ], 00:33:23.266 --> 00:33:24.668 as you can see today. 00:33:24.668 --> 00:33:26.003 It's a very hot day. 00:33:26.003 --> 00:33:27.237 Or at least it would have been -- 00:33:27.237 --> 00:33:28.572 there would have been many hot days out here. 00:33:28.572 --> 00:33:31.375 And so, it was hot, they were sweaty, 00:33:31.375 --> 00:33:32.810 they were working long hours. 00:33:32.810 --> 00:33:33.978 It would have been pretty laborious. 00:33:33.978 --> 00:33:35.846 A lot of the things that they were moving 00:33:35.846 --> 00:33:37.481 and lifting were really heavy. 00:33:37.481 --> 00:33:41.619 And, again, they were moving around this really heavy, 00:33:41.619 --> 00:33:42.887 dangerous stuff, 00:33:42.887 --> 00:33:45.790 so they had to try to move slowly and be careful 00:33:45.790 --> 00:33:47.391 but they worked long hours out in the heat 00:33:47.391 --> 00:33:49.693 and it had to have been pretty miserable, I would say. 00:33:49.693 --> 00:33:51.695 You know, so it would have been really challenging, I think, 00:33:51.695 --> 00:33:52.930 for them 00:33:52.930 --> 00:33:54.665 and it is to their credit that so many of them 00:33:54.665 --> 00:33:56.667 were so dedicated to their country 00:33:56.667 --> 00:33:58.269 that they accepted these conditions 00:33:58.269 --> 00:33:59.670 and they worked and their main focus 00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:01.806 was on what they could do to aid the war effort, 00:34:01.806 --> 00:34:03.340 despite all of these indignities 00:34:03.340 --> 00:34:05.609 that they had to endure on a daily basis. 00:34:05.609 --> 00:34:07.711 -What happened the night of the explosion? 00:34:07.711 --> 00:34:09.980 Were there any survivors? 00:34:09.980 --> 00:34:13.150 -Well, there are many things that we do know about 00:34:13.150 --> 00:34:14.685 the night of the explosion, but there are some things 00:34:14.685 --> 00:34:16.687 that we don't know and will never know. 00:34:16.687 --> 00:34:19.690 What we do know is that at approximately 10:18 00:34:19.690 --> 00:34:23.795 on the night of the explosion, which was July 17, 1944, 00:34:23.795 --> 00:34:26.931 there were two explosions that happened. 00:34:26.931 --> 00:34:29.300 The first one happened, one explosion happened, 00:34:29.300 --> 00:34:32.102 and then a larger one about seven seconds later. 00:34:32.102 --> 00:34:35.406 We don't know exactly what caused the explosions. 00:34:35.406 --> 00:34:38.409 We do know that the end results was that the pier area 00:34:38.409 --> 00:34:41.712 here at Port Chicago was more or less obliterated. 00:34:41.712 --> 00:34:43.380 line:0% There were two ships at the time -- 00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:46.150 line:0% the S.S. E.A. Bryant and the S.S. Quinault Victory 00:34:46.150 --> 00:34:48.552 line:0% and they were side-by-side, being loaded. 00:34:48.552 --> 00:34:51.355 line:0% One was almost fully loaded and the other one had just arrived 00:34:51.355 --> 00:34:54.124 line:0% and was in the process of being loaded. 00:34:54.124 --> 00:34:57.194 line:0% So when the explosion occurred, it was huge. 00:34:57.194 --> 00:34:58.628 The entire area shook. 00:34:58.628 --> 00:35:01.999 Windows were shattered as far away as San Francisco. 00:35:01.999 --> 00:35:03.534 People were shaken out of bed. 00:35:03.534 --> 00:35:05.336 The town of Port Chicago, which was nearby, 00:35:05.336 --> 00:35:09.140 was heavily damaged and it produced this massive cloud 00:35:09.140 --> 00:35:11.742 that extended about 12,000 feet up into the air. 00:35:11.742 --> 00:35:14.745 This was a massive, explosive event 00:35:14.745 --> 00:35:17.514 that shook and ruptured the entire area. 00:35:17.514 --> 00:35:19.750 And no one knew what was happening at first. 00:35:19.750 --> 00:35:22.219 I think everyone thought that we might have been under attack, 00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:23.587 but, in fact, we were not under the attack. 00:35:23.587 --> 00:35:26.424 It was just that something had happened at the base 00:35:26.424 --> 00:35:29.026 with the munitions and both of those ships 00:35:29.026 --> 00:35:32.162 and thousands and thousands of tons of explosives 00:35:32.162 --> 00:35:35.532 and 320 men had been blasted away. 00:35:35.532 --> 00:35:39.904 -Only weeks after the explosion, the witnesses and survivors 00:35:39.904 --> 00:35:42.038 were all sent back to work, 00:35:42.038 --> 00:35:45.676 back to the same dangerous job of loading ammunition 00:35:45.676 --> 00:35:49.847 with no regard for safety or military protocols. 00:35:49.847 --> 00:35:53.050 As the men were in formation to head down to the pier, 00:35:53.050 --> 00:35:56.987 some hesitated and stopped when they received the order. 00:35:56.987 --> 00:36:01.058 -So, what happened to those who refused to load explosives? 00:36:01.058 --> 00:36:04.228 -Everyone who survived was severely traumatized 00:36:04.228 --> 00:36:07.531 because they were involved in the clean-up of this area 00:36:07.531 --> 00:36:10.768 and so there were remains of some of the deceased 00:36:10.768 --> 00:36:12.002 they had to clean up 00:36:12.002 --> 00:36:14.538 and it was very traumatic for those who survived. 00:36:14.538 --> 00:36:17.040 They had what we like to call "survivors' guilt", 00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:19.710 you know, because many of them lost so many friends 00:36:19.710 --> 00:36:23.347 and the white sailors were given sick leave 00:36:23.347 --> 00:36:24.882 and allowed to take time off 00:36:24.882 --> 00:36:28.686 to try to recover mentally from this event, 00:36:28.686 --> 00:36:31.055 but the black sailors after a very brief period 00:36:31.055 --> 00:36:32.723 during which they were involved in clean-up 00:36:32.723 --> 00:36:35.626 were ordered back to work much more quickly. 00:36:35.626 --> 00:36:39.429 line:0% And so, on August 9th, barely three weeks or so 00:36:39.429 --> 00:36:41.398 line:0% after the explosion, 00:36:41.398 --> 00:36:42.900 line:0% some of the black sailors who survived 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:45.002 line:0% had been reassigned to Mare Island 00:36:45.002 --> 00:36:49.440 and they were given the order to return to loading munitions. 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.910 That same dangerous job that had gotten so many of their friends 00:36:52.910 --> 00:36:56.647 and mates killed just a few weeks earlier. 00:36:56.647 --> 00:36:59.383 And they stopped and they refused to go back 00:36:59.383 --> 00:37:01.685 to work loading those munitions. 00:37:01.685 --> 00:37:03.587 And they were threatened with being charged with mutiny 00:37:03.587 --> 00:37:05.990 if they continued to refuse to go back to work, 00:37:05.990 --> 00:37:08.525 so this is kind of a work-stoppage, essentially. 00:37:08.525 --> 00:37:11.696 And, at that time, when threatened with mutiny, 00:37:11.696 --> 00:37:15.666 208 of them reconsidered and went back to work 00:37:15.666 --> 00:37:20.070 and 50 more still refused to proceed with loading munitions 00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:21.939 and so those 50 were arrested 00:37:21.939 --> 00:37:25.509 and they were then, two months later, 00:37:25.509 --> 00:37:27.177 charged and tried with mutiny 00:37:27.177 --> 00:37:30.380 in the largest group-mutiny trial ever 00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:32.649 in U.S. naval history. 00:37:32.649 --> 00:37:34.284 And they were convicted. 00:37:34.284 --> 00:37:37.354 -What is mutiny and what was the verdict of the trial? 00:37:37.354 --> 00:37:41.224 line:0% -So mutiny is generally considered to be an act 00:37:41.224 --> 00:37:43.593 line:0% of rebellion against authority. 00:37:43.593 --> 00:37:45.429 line:0% If you are in the military 00:37:45.429 --> 00:37:47.731 line:0% and you are refusing to follow orders 00:37:47.731 --> 00:37:49.900 line:0% and you are rebelling against authority, 00:37:49.900 --> 00:37:51.868 line:0% that is what is considered mutiny. 00:37:51.868 --> 00:37:54.838 line:0% Now, mutiny can also be very narrowly defined 00:37:54.838 --> 00:37:58.842 line:0% as something as simple as refusing to follow an order. 00:37:58.842 --> 00:38:00.911 -We're here at a special event. 00:38:00.911 --> 00:38:03.347 What makes this event so important? 00:38:03.347 --> 00:38:06.917 Every year here at the park we hold an event 00:38:06.917 --> 00:38:10.053 commemorating the anniversary of the explosion 00:38:10.053 --> 00:38:13.056 and honoring the lives 00:38:13.056 --> 00:38:17.595 and sacrifices and the legacy of Port Chicago 00:38:17.595 --> 00:38:18.929 to commemorate the explosion 00:38:18.929 --> 00:38:21.798 and to make sure that those men who did lose their lives 00:38:21.798 --> 00:38:23.033 will not be forgotten 00:38:23.033 --> 00:38:27.037 and that the result of the mutiny trial 00:38:27.037 --> 00:38:29.440 and the history that was made 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.942 in terms of desegregating the armed forces, 00:38:31.942 --> 00:38:34.010 that that history will not be forgotten 00:38:34.010 --> 00:38:36.880 and we can continue to learn from that history 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.415 and from those stories, 00:38:38.415 --> 00:38:41.284 and so it's a very special time for us to just reflect 00:38:41.284 --> 00:38:43.520 on what happened here 00:38:43.520 --> 00:38:45.289 and on the meaning of it and to reflect 00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:47.724 on our own personal connection with the memorial 00:38:47.724 --> 00:38:52.697 and keeping the memory of those lost souls alive by doing so. 00:38:52.697 --> 00:38:55.800 -The military and National Park Service 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.968 commemorate this tragic day 00:38:57.968 --> 00:39:01.806 in memory of those lost with a somber ceremony, 00:39:01.806 --> 00:39:04.774 including a bell ringing, flag folding, 00:39:04.774 --> 00:39:07.745 and placing a wreath into the water of the bay. 00:39:07.745 --> 00:39:11.281 We take time to remind ourselves of racial struggles, 00:39:11.281 --> 00:39:13.550 both back then and today, 00:39:13.550 --> 00:39:16.286 and our critical pursuit of social justice 00:39:16.286 --> 00:39:18.823 in our modern world. 00:39:21.891 --> 00:39:24.628 Well, thanks to Maceo and Major Kelli for their insight 00:39:24.628 --> 00:39:26.630 into the Port Chicago tragedy. 00:39:26.630 --> 00:39:27.864 It's a story from World War II 00:39:27.864 --> 00:39:29.967 that deserves national attention. 00:39:29.967 --> 00:39:31.368 Now let's take a look at the answer 00:39:31.368 --> 00:39:33.371 to the third poll question. 00:39:39.143 --> 00:39:42.012 The answer is B, Pearl Harbor. 00:40:08.204 --> 00:40:11.742 line:0% The story of Dorie Miller is a pretty famous one. 00:40:11.742 --> 00:40:14.111 line:0% Let's bring in Rob Citino to talk about a lesser 00:40:14.111 --> 00:40:16.747 known story of African-Americans in the military 00:40:16.747 --> 00:40:18.848 on one of the most important days of the war. 00:40:18.848 --> 00:40:19.950 -Thanks, Damon. 00:40:19.950 --> 00:40:22.018 So, D-Day -- let's go up to there. 00:40:22.018 --> 00:40:26.790 June 6, 1944, our big landing on the west European coastline, 00:40:26.790 --> 00:40:29.660 big strike against Hitler's Fortress Europe. 00:40:29.660 --> 00:40:34.231 You know, there's numerous famous iconic photos of that era 00:40:34.231 --> 00:40:36.066 and I'm showing you this, Damon. 00:40:36.066 --> 00:40:38.368 What do you notice? What's going on here? 00:40:38.368 --> 00:40:39.770 -This is an easy one. 00:40:39.770 --> 00:40:42.106 You can see all the barrage balloons. 00:40:42.106 --> 00:40:45.175 -So we have an image here of barrage balloons. 00:40:45.175 --> 00:40:49.313 Now this is an interesting piece of military technology. 00:40:49.313 --> 00:40:51.748 We're worried about German air attacks on the troops 00:40:51.748 --> 00:40:53.283 who have just landed. 00:40:53.283 --> 00:40:54.885 We have it pretty well-covered from the Air Force, 00:40:54.885 --> 00:40:58.622 but you don't want any of those German aircraft slipping through 00:40:58.622 --> 00:40:59.923 and doing damage, 00:40:59.923 --> 00:41:02.125 loosening their bombs or strafing troops on the beach, 00:41:02.125 --> 00:41:03.760 so you have something called a barrage balloon. 00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:05.495 It floats above the beach and dangles 00:41:05.495 --> 00:41:08.065 down these heavy metal cables, 00:41:08.065 --> 00:41:11.801 thus rendering it impossible for any kind of low-flying 00:41:11.801 --> 00:41:13.637 enemy aircraft to attack. 00:41:13.637 --> 00:41:16.473 I would say it's absolutely essential to the overall success 00:41:16.473 --> 00:41:17.941 of the D-Day landing. 00:41:17.941 --> 00:41:21.212 Now, what I think has been generally unknown up until now 00:41:21.212 --> 00:41:24.414 is the unit that took care of that on those D-Day beaches, 00:41:24.414 --> 00:41:26.750 Omaha and Utah Beach for the Americans. 00:41:26.750 --> 00:41:30.053 The 320th Barrage Balloon Battalion, 00:41:30.053 --> 00:41:31.755 an African-American unit, 00:41:31.755 --> 00:41:33.290 and the only African-American unit 00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:36.961 to land on those beaches on that historic day. 00:41:36.961 --> 00:41:38.261 You know, they got the job done. 00:41:38.261 --> 00:41:40.097 Our troops were able to land, we were able to land 00:41:40.097 --> 00:41:42.766 over 100,000 troops in that one day, 00:41:42.766 --> 00:41:46.570 by and large they were immune from German air attack. 00:41:46.570 --> 00:41:48.205 I mean, we had our own Air Force covering it, 00:41:48.205 --> 00:41:50.841 but you also need this second layer of protection 00:41:50.841 --> 00:41:54.177 because you're talking about life or death here. 00:41:54.177 --> 00:41:57.715 I think in a general way that 320th Barrage Balloon Battalion 00:41:57.715 --> 00:41:59.082 is a good story. 00:41:59.082 --> 00:42:01.919 We tend to tell the story of World War II through the eyes 00:42:01.919 --> 00:42:05.355 and with the photos of white military personnel, 00:42:05.355 --> 00:42:07.991 whether they be sailors or soldiers, airmen. 00:42:07.991 --> 00:42:10.193 But there's other stories to be told. 00:42:10.193 --> 00:42:13.063 Every American in some way was playing a role in that invasion 00:42:13.063 --> 00:42:15.232 and I think, when you look at the 320th, 00:42:15.232 --> 00:42:16.967 you have a unit who got the job done 00:42:16.967 --> 00:42:18.235 and did what had to be done, 00:42:18.235 --> 00:42:20.871 even within the confines of a segregated military. 00:42:20.871 --> 00:42:22.272 -Yep. 00:42:22.272 --> 00:42:25.542 You know, I think a lot of the youngsters out there today 00:42:25.542 --> 00:42:28.212 probably find it interesting that you referred to a balloon 00:42:28.212 --> 00:42:31.614 with metal poles dangling from them as technology. 00:42:31.614 --> 00:42:32.716 -Yes, right? -It's high-tech. 00:42:32.716 --> 00:42:33.817 -Right, right. 00:42:33.817 --> 00:42:35.052 I would say this is medium high-tech. 00:42:35.052 --> 00:42:36.686 You know, there's high-tech aircraft 00:42:36.686 --> 00:42:39.123 and those run the gamut and, of course, 00:42:39.123 --> 00:42:42.259 the Navy has always indulged in high technology. 00:42:42.259 --> 00:42:44.194 This is kind of a -- you have an active defense, 00:42:44.194 --> 00:42:45.228 that's your Air Force. 00:42:45.228 --> 00:42:46.363 You also have passive defenses... 00:42:46.363 --> 00:42:47.430 -That's right. -...which are things 00:42:47.430 --> 00:42:48.632 just hanging in the air, 00:42:48.632 --> 00:42:50.433 making it impossible for enemy aircraft 00:42:50.433 --> 00:42:52.135 to fly over that sector. 00:42:52.135 --> 00:42:54.204 -That's great stuff. Thanks, Rob. 00:42:54.204 --> 00:42:55.872 Hopefully, we're uncovering some of those 00:42:55.872 --> 00:42:57.975 untold stories today, too. 00:42:57.975 --> 00:42:59.410 Now let's answer some student questions. 00:42:59.410 --> 00:43:00.477 -Bring it on. -Let's see. 00:43:00.477 --> 00:43:02.112 line:0% Spencer J. 00:43:02.112 --> 00:43:04.181 line:0% Did African-American soldiers get recognition 00:43:04.181 --> 00:43:05.682 line:0% and medals for their service? 00:43:05.682 --> 00:43:06.916 line:0% -Good question, Spencer. 00:43:06.916 --> 00:43:09.820 line:0% Certainly they did, up and down the various kinds 00:43:09.820 --> 00:43:13.190 of military decorations you can find except for the top levels. 00:43:13.190 --> 00:43:16.727 So, no African-American military personnel 00:43:16.727 --> 00:43:20.530 was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor during the war. 00:43:20.530 --> 00:43:24.167 So that's the highest honor that our country can bestow for valor 00:43:24.167 --> 00:43:25.201 in combat. 00:43:25.201 --> 00:43:26.904 And -- -But how many were awarded? 00:43:26.904 --> 00:43:28.972 -So, there were several thousand, I think, 00:43:28.972 --> 00:43:30.240 awarded in the course -- 00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:31.708 maybe many hundreds -- in the course of the war, 00:43:31.708 --> 00:43:33.743 I'd have to look at the exact number. 00:43:33.743 --> 00:43:35.111 But no African-Americans 00:43:35.111 --> 00:43:37.213 received that until decades later, 00:43:37.213 --> 00:43:39.717 when President Clinton ordered a review 00:43:39.717 --> 00:43:42.352 of all the distinguished classes 00:43:42.352 --> 00:43:44.154 right under the Congressional Medal of Honor 00:43:44.154 --> 00:43:45.555 that had been awarded during the war 00:43:45.555 --> 00:43:48.525 and, in that case, many injustices were rectified. 00:43:48.525 --> 00:43:50.126 We can just put it that way. -Right. 00:43:50.126 --> 00:43:51.762 You know, we were talking earlier 00:43:51.762 --> 00:43:55.132 about the awarding of medals during World War I. 00:43:55.132 --> 00:43:58.034 And it was interesting that the French 00:43:58.034 --> 00:43:59.302 awarded a lot of African-Americans 00:43:59.302 --> 00:44:01.571 with some pretty high -- -There's no doubt. 00:44:01.571 --> 00:44:04.074 There's the French Croix de Guerre, which is the War Cross, 00:44:04.074 --> 00:44:05.942 which many African-Americans 00:44:05.942 --> 00:44:08.312 received from the French government at a time 00:44:08.312 --> 00:44:11.314 we can say their service was being undervalued 00:44:11.314 --> 00:44:14.284 and under-rewarded by their own government at home. 00:44:14.284 --> 00:44:16.252 line:0% -So, we have another question. 00:44:16.252 --> 00:44:18.455 line:0% And this is from Riverheads High School. 00:44:24.928 --> 00:44:26.296 line:0% -That's a great question from Riverheads. 00:44:26.296 --> 00:44:28.265 line:0% I think there's a couple of ways to answer it, 00:44:28.265 --> 00:44:30.300 line:0% and the answer, at first, is probably, 00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:33.470 "Yes, there were white pilots who objected to that", 00:44:33.470 --> 00:44:34.704 whether they were from the South 00:44:34.704 --> 00:44:36.940 or whether from their own racist motivations. 00:44:36.940 --> 00:44:39.309 After they'd seen the Red Tails in action, 00:44:39.309 --> 00:44:41.244 there's nothing a bomber pilot 00:44:41.244 --> 00:44:43.880 loves more than a friendly fighter aircraft 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.649 flying immediately overhead or below or on your flank, 00:44:46.649 --> 00:44:50.220 so I think this is an example of where African-Americans 00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:52.556 really were able to shatter stereotypes. 00:44:52.556 --> 00:44:54.190 Whatever kind of racist misconceptions 00:44:54.190 --> 00:44:56.259 you might have had about that at the beginning, 00:44:56.259 --> 00:44:58.462 you were glad the Red Tails were there by the end. 00:44:58.462 --> 00:44:59.897 -Yeah. 00:44:59.897 --> 00:45:01.932 And, you know, in the movie "Red Tails", it was kind of -- 00:45:01.932 --> 00:45:03.800 initially, a lot of them had problems, 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.637 but they were big fans... 00:45:06.637 --> 00:45:09.039 -By the end, I think the only color you saw 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.542 in a fighter aircraft was red, white, and blue. 00:45:11.542 --> 00:45:13.343 -Right. Man, oh man. 00:45:13.343 --> 00:45:15.479 So, Rob, we've got, let's see, one more question. 00:45:15.479 --> 00:45:16.746 -Sure. 00:45:16.746 --> 00:45:19.149 line:0% -From Isiah E. 00:45:22.618 --> 00:45:23.787 line:0% -Good question, Isiah. 00:45:23.787 --> 00:45:27.257 line:0% Yes, on the question of pay, absolutely. 00:45:27.257 --> 00:45:28.826 The military has a very good record -- 00:45:28.826 --> 00:45:31.261 you're paid on a scale, how long you're in, what your rank is, 00:45:31.261 --> 00:45:33.630 and it's very difficult to play around with that. 00:45:33.630 --> 00:45:36.633 In terms of the second part of that question, about supplies, 00:45:36.633 --> 00:45:40.103 I think it's safe to say that the segregated military 00:45:40.103 --> 00:45:41.771 gave sort of second-rate supplies, 00:45:41.771 --> 00:45:44.241 whatever was left over, maybe surplus in some ways, 00:45:44.241 --> 00:45:46.910 that rarely did African-American units 00:45:46.910 --> 00:45:49.346 get the sort of state-of-the-art weaponry and supplies 00:45:49.346 --> 00:45:51.281 that maybe some of their white counterparts did. 00:45:51.281 --> 00:45:52.515 -Wow. 00:45:52.515 --> 00:45:55.719 So, it's time to open our last poll question. 00:46:11.968 --> 00:46:14.371 line:0% In our final segment, Mizani and Shelbie 00:46:14.371 --> 00:46:16.173 line:0% interview a very special guest 00:46:16.173 --> 00:46:18.942 line:0% who is a Tuskegee Airman during the war. 00:46:18.942 --> 00:46:21.411 line:0% The Tuskegee Airmen were the first black aviators 00:46:21.411 --> 00:46:23.913 line:0% and air crewmen in the U.S. military. 00:46:23.913 --> 00:46:26.249 line:0% They were an impressive and highly respected team 00:46:26.249 --> 00:46:27.684 line:0% soaring over Europe, 00:46:27.684 --> 00:46:31.088 line:0% earning over 150 Distinguished Flying Crosses. 00:46:31.088 --> 00:46:34.224 line:0% Let's take a look. 00:46:34.224 --> 00:46:36.893 line:0% We're back in the Museum's U.S. Freedom Pavilion 00:46:36.893 --> 00:46:38.061 line:0% in the Boeing Center 00:46:38.061 --> 00:46:39.963 line:0% to learn a bit more about the contribution 00:46:39.963 --> 00:46:42.699 line:0% and the recognition of service of African-Americans 00:46:42.699 --> 00:46:43.867 line:0% in the military. 00:46:43.867 --> 00:46:46.203 line:0% -We're sitting here with special guest 00:46:46.203 --> 00:46:49.572 line:0% Lieutenant Colonel George Hardy who was a Tuskegee Airman. 00:46:49.572 --> 00:46:51.108 line:0% Lieutenant Colonel Hardy, 00:46:51.108 --> 00:46:54.210 line:0% can you tell us who the Tuskegee Airmen were? 00:46:54.210 --> 00:46:56.513 line:0% -Well, the Tuskegee Airmen were the first 00:46:56.513 --> 00:47:00.284 line:0% military Afro-American pilots 00:47:00.284 --> 00:47:06.389 line:0% in the United States Army and in March of 1941 00:47:06.389 --> 00:47:09.325 line:0% at Chanute Army Airfield in Illinois, 00:47:09.325 --> 00:47:11.461 line:0% the 99th Pursuit Squadron 00:47:11.461 --> 00:47:13.363 line:0% was formed with a white commander 00:47:13.363 --> 00:47:16.833 line:0% and 240-some African-American young men. 00:47:16.833 --> 00:47:19.636 line:0% -When did you start the military? 00:47:19.636 --> 00:47:21.838 line:0% Like, when did you join the military? 00:47:21.838 --> 00:47:28.178 -Well, I joined the military in 1943 and in March of 1943, 00:47:28.178 --> 00:47:29.545 the Army and the Navy decided 00:47:29.545 --> 00:47:32.015 if you're 17 and a high school graduate, 00:47:32.015 --> 00:47:34.484 you can take the aviation cadet exam. 00:47:34.484 --> 00:47:37.687 I took it and passed it for the Army in March of '43 00:47:37.687 --> 00:47:41.258 and I was sworn in as a private in the Reserve. 00:47:41.258 --> 00:47:45.762 -How did that segregation affect you as an airman? 00:47:45.762 --> 00:47:47.030 -Well, the thing is that, you know, 00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:48.131 we went into this thing, 00:47:48.131 --> 00:47:50.433 some people asked, "Why did you fight?" 00:47:50.433 --> 00:47:52.636 "Well, it's our country, too, see." 00:47:52.636 --> 00:47:55.205 And what it did, though, because of that, 00:47:55.205 --> 00:47:58.274 I think we turned inward to each other 00:47:58.274 --> 00:48:01.745 and I think it made us a little stronger as a group, 00:48:01.745 --> 00:48:05.415 the fact that we have an enemy out there, 00:48:05.415 --> 00:48:08.017 not only overseas, but in this country. 00:48:08.017 --> 00:48:11.388 So, we worked together, supported each other, 00:48:11.388 --> 00:48:15.791 and I think it made us stronger individually and as a unit. 00:48:15.791 --> 00:48:17.060 When we went into combat, 00:48:17.060 --> 00:48:20.697 it showed that we did produce very well. 00:48:20.697 --> 00:48:22.532 -Now let's pause for a second 00:48:22.532 --> 00:48:25.969 and take a look right up above us here. 00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:28.638 We actually have a very important artifact. 00:48:28.638 --> 00:48:31.340 line:0% This is a P-51 Mustang. 00:48:31.340 --> 00:48:35.712 line:0% It's a high-performing, high-altitude fighter plane. 00:48:35.712 --> 00:48:38.848 line:0% Mizani, what do you notice about this plane? 00:48:38.848 --> 00:48:40.817 line:0% -What I've noticed is that, like, aside 00:48:40.817 --> 00:48:44.821 line:0% from the rest of the planes, this one has, like, a red tail 00:48:44.821 --> 00:48:49.392 line:0% and it has different accents of red and yellow on it, 00:48:49.392 --> 00:48:54.431 line:0% but it also has the same stars as the rest of them. 00:48:54.431 --> 00:48:56.666 line:0% -Yes, very good observation. 00:48:56.666 --> 00:48:59.302 line:0% Now that red paint job on the tail, 00:48:59.302 --> 00:49:02.205 line:0% that got the Tuskegee Airmen the nickname 00:49:02.205 --> 00:49:04.374 line:0% the "Red-Tailed Angels". 00:49:04.374 --> 00:49:08.711 line:0% The bomber pilots, they would escort actually were so happy 00:49:08.711 --> 00:49:11.748 line:0% and thankful for the job that they died they referred to them 00:49:11.748 --> 00:49:13.583 line:0% as the Red-Tailed Angels 00:49:13.583 --> 00:49:15.985 line:0% and, on this plane, you'll actually notice 00:49:15.985 --> 00:49:18.321 line:0% that there's a name painted on the side. 00:49:18.321 --> 00:49:20.323 line:0% The name is "Bunnie". 00:49:20.323 --> 00:49:23.126 line:0% This plane is painted in the likeness 00:49:23.126 --> 00:49:27.030 line:0% of Dr. Roscoe Brown's plane, which had the name Bunnie. 00:49:27.030 --> 00:49:29.332 line:0% And there's one other thing on this plane. 00:49:29.332 --> 00:49:32.101 line:0% You'll notice a Nazi flag on the side. 00:49:32.101 --> 00:49:36.539 line:0% That indicates that Bunnie shot down a Nazi jet 00:49:36.539 --> 00:49:39.009 line:0% that flew over a hundred miles per hour 00:49:39.009 --> 00:49:41.544 line:0% faster than this plane flew. 00:49:41.544 --> 00:49:43.980 line:0% -Did you fly a plane like this one? 00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:45.882 line:0% -Yes, I did. 00:49:45.882 --> 00:49:49.920 line:0% And I ended up flying 21 combat missions overseas 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.856 line:0% in March and April of 1945. 00:49:52.856 --> 00:49:55.258 line:0% I was 19 years old at the time. -Wow. 00:49:55.258 --> 00:49:58.995 line:0% -But the war ended in March and May of 1945. 00:49:58.995 --> 00:50:00.897 line:0% And it was a beautiful airplane. 00:50:00.897 --> 00:50:03.533 line:0% Like I said, I had my Rolls-Royce engine 00:50:03.533 --> 00:50:07.203 line:0% at the age of 19. [ Chuckles ] 00:50:07.203 --> 00:50:09.739 line:0% -Can you just describe what it was like for you to, 00:50:09.739 --> 00:50:12.241 line:0% like, fly in a plane like this during that time? 00:50:12.241 --> 00:50:13.976 line:0% -Well, it was out of the world -- second lieutenant 00:50:13.976 --> 00:50:16.446 line:0% flying a P-51 Mustang. 00:50:16.446 --> 00:50:19.716 line:0% Most people consider that the best airplane in World War II. 00:50:19.716 --> 00:50:23.086 line:0% And it was fast, responsive, and what-not. 00:50:23.086 --> 00:50:25.422 line:0% And flying formation -- 00:50:25.422 --> 00:50:27.224 line:0% I usually flew as a wingman over there. 00:50:27.224 --> 00:50:30.059 line:0% And I was a second lieutenant, but also, 00:50:30.059 --> 00:50:33.029 line:0% we did a lot of strafing. 00:50:33.029 --> 00:50:36.132 line:0% If we weren't escorting bombers, we'd go down over Germany 00:50:36.132 --> 00:50:37.768 in flanks of four, 00:50:37.768 --> 00:50:39.902 looking for targets of opportunity, 00:50:39.902 --> 00:50:42.605 to destroy trucks, trains, 00:50:42.605 --> 00:50:46.910 what-not that the Germans may use to move supplies around, 00:50:46.910 --> 00:50:48.711 but the plane was so responsive, 00:50:48.711 --> 00:50:52.081 much more so than, say, the P-47. 00:50:52.081 --> 00:50:55.118 And it was just as delightful. 00:50:55.118 --> 00:50:58.288 -Mr. Hardy, can you tell us if the Tuskegee Airmen 00:50:58.288 --> 00:51:01.424 ever received any recognition while going to war? 00:51:01.424 --> 00:51:02.625 -Why, yes. 00:51:02.625 --> 00:51:05.061 During the war, the Tuskegee Airmen received 00:51:05.061 --> 00:51:07.129 hundreds of air medals 00:51:07.129 --> 00:51:12.802 awarded for flying over Europe and they also received 00:51:12.802 --> 00:51:14.938 close to a hundred Distinguished Flying Crosses 00:51:14.938 --> 00:51:16.506 for their service over there. 00:51:16.506 --> 00:51:19.275 -George, how was your experience after the war 00:51:19.275 --> 00:51:20.877 when you came back home? 00:51:20.877 --> 00:51:22.612 -When we came back to the States, 00:51:22.612 --> 00:51:24.648 nothing in the States had changed. 00:51:27.216 --> 00:51:29.485 When I came back in August of 1945, 00:51:29.485 --> 00:51:32.455 the war had ended in the Pacific also 00:51:32.455 --> 00:51:34.957 and we landed in Virginia 00:51:34.957 --> 00:51:37.961 and went to a replacement center in North Carolina. 00:51:37.961 --> 00:51:39.862 I wanted to stay around airplanes, 00:51:39.862 --> 00:51:41.731 even if I couldn't fly any longer, 00:51:41.731 --> 00:51:45.434 so I asked about electronics maintenance on airplanes 00:51:45.434 --> 00:51:48.805 and I was able to apply for a school and went to that school. 00:51:48.805 --> 00:51:54.610 I selected September 5th, ten months to Keesler Field, 00:51:54.610 --> 00:51:58.447 line:0% but in July, President Truman signed an executive order 00:51:58.447 --> 00:51:59.816 line:0% directing the Army, Navy, 00:51:59.816 --> 00:52:02.885 line:0% and Air Force to submit plans for racial integration. 00:52:02.885 --> 00:52:04.520 line:0% Within a month and a half, 00:52:04.520 --> 00:52:08.958 line:0% the Air Force had deactivated 332nd at Lockbourne 00:52:08.958 --> 00:52:11.761 line:0% and, in a period of weeks, 00:52:11.761 --> 00:52:13.129 line:0% the hundreds of people at Lockbourne 00:52:13.129 --> 00:52:16.299 line:0% received orders to Air Force units all over the world. 00:52:16.299 --> 00:52:18.868 line:0% The Air Force, in essence, integrated 00:52:18.868 --> 00:52:20.336 line:0% and in a short period of time, 00:52:20.336 --> 00:52:22.739 line:0% the first of the service to integrate. 00:52:22.739 --> 00:52:25.541 line:0% And I finished school in 1949 00:52:25.541 --> 00:52:28.912 and was assigned to the 19th Bomb Group on Guam. 00:52:28.912 --> 00:52:32.181 I was the only African-American in the group at that time, 00:52:32.181 --> 00:52:33.949 assigned as a maintenance officer, 00:52:33.949 --> 00:52:36.920 but as a pilot, I also got to fly the airplane 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.389 and I spent a time with the 19th Bomb Group 00:52:40.389 --> 00:52:43.527 during the Korean War. 00:52:48.764 --> 00:52:51.667 A Tuskegee Airman. Thank you, Mizani, Shelbie, 00:52:51.667 --> 00:52:55.171 and Lieutenant Colonel Hardy for such an inspiring story. 00:52:55.171 --> 00:52:57.774 Now let's uncover the answer to the final poll question. 00:53:03.946 --> 00:53:08.518 The answer is C, 19 years after World War II ended. 00:53:21.932 --> 00:53:23.699 -Thanks, Damon. So as we heard from 00:53:23.699 --> 00:53:27.670 Colonel George and Ranger Kelly, the armed forces began 00:53:27.670 --> 00:53:29.272 to integrate in 1948, 00:53:29.272 --> 00:53:32.242 but, you know, it was still a long, long road 00:53:32.242 --> 00:53:34.410 to full integration for African-Americans 00:53:34.410 --> 00:53:38.280 either in the military or in American society at large. 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.283 You know, you have a situation -- 00:53:40.283 --> 00:53:43.153 and I've verified this personally from testimony -- 00:53:43.153 --> 00:53:45.154 where you can be a German prisoner of war 00:53:45.154 --> 00:53:47.990 in the United States and you had full use 00:53:47.990 --> 00:53:51.261 of all the facilities available to white American 00:53:51.261 --> 00:53:52.796 where an African-American warrior, 00:53:52.796 --> 00:53:55.799 someone who fought against Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, 00:53:55.799 --> 00:53:57.567 someone who had brought victory to our country, 00:53:57.567 --> 00:53:59.269 still had to use those second -rate, 00:53:59.269 --> 00:54:02.038 and segregated facilities, and it's an amazing story 00:54:02.038 --> 00:54:04.173 and if I hadn't heard it from people's own lips, 00:54:04.173 --> 00:54:06.042 I'd have to admit, I would not even believe it. 00:54:06.042 --> 00:54:07.310 -Wow. 00:54:07.310 --> 00:54:10.113 That's kind of hard to hear. 00:54:10.113 --> 00:54:13.416 Jim Crow laws were still in full force down here in the South. 00:54:13.416 --> 00:54:17.320 -Yes, and as we've said earlier and I'll reiterate it, 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.022 I'm from the North and I try not to give the North a pass either. 00:54:20.022 --> 00:54:22.992 Jim Crow was bad and so was the kind of de facto segregation 00:54:22.992 --> 00:54:25.028 we found in the North, 00:54:25.028 --> 00:54:28.531 but, you know, we can take a look at a few heroes -- 00:54:28.531 --> 00:54:32.268 I'll call them, because I think the word is entirely apt -- 00:54:32.268 --> 00:54:34.137 who fought the civil rights struggle after the war 00:54:34.137 --> 00:54:36.505 and were influenced by World War II, 00:54:36.505 --> 00:54:39.208 so, first, let's think about the story of a young lawyer 00:54:39.208 --> 00:54:41.344 who took part in the Port Chicago trial -- 00:54:41.344 --> 00:54:42.711 Thurgood Marshall. 00:54:42.711 --> 00:54:44.980 The chief counsel of the NAACP, 00:54:44.980 --> 00:54:48.884 he appealed the verdict of the Port Chicago 50 trial 00:54:48.884 --> 00:54:51.153 and nine years after World War II, 00:54:51.153 --> 00:54:53.656 he secured a major victory in the famous 00:54:53.656 --> 00:54:56.025 Brown v. Board of Education trial, 00:54:56.025 --> 00:54:58.161 which, finally, declared school segregation 00:54:58.161 --> 00:55:01.197 to be unconstitutional, that you could claim separate but equal, 00:55:01.197 --> 00:55:03.566 but it was a myth and it always had been a myth. 00:55:03.566 --> 00:55:06.302 Separate was inherently unequal. 00:55:06.302 --> 00:55:08.171 Marshall went on in 1967 00:55:08.171 --> 00:55:10.407 to become the first African-American 00:55:10.407 --> 00:55:13.242 Supreme Court Justice, served till 1991. 00:55:13.242 --> 00:55:16.579 He was a meticulous -- he compiled a case meticulously, 00:55:16.579 --> 00:55:17.981 he could also argue a case, 00:55:17.981 --> 00:55:20.149 and, for most of my adult life growing up 00:55:20.149 --> 00:55:21.850 and becoming aware of politics, 00:55:21.850 --> 00:55:23.419 I was seeing Thurgood Marshall, 00:55:23.419 --> 00:55:26.056 major player on the American scene. 00:55:26.056 --> 00:55:28.824 Or think about another kind of story, 00:55:28.824 --> 00:55:30.793 a man named Medgar Evers. 00:55:30.793 --> 00:55:34.063 As a young man, 17, he enlisted in the U.S. Army 00:55:34.063 --> 00:55:36.198 and participated in the Normandy Invasion. 00:55:36.198 --> 00:55:37.667 He served in France and Germany 00:55:37.667 --> 00:55:40.603 and was honorably discharged in 1946. 00:55:40.603 --> 00:55:43.239 Now, after the war, he returned home to Mississippi, 00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.841 his home state, earned his college degree from -- 00:55:45.841 --> 00:55:47.443 I believe it was A&M at the time -- 00:55:47.443 --> 00:55:49.312 Alcorn State University today. 00:55:49.312 --> 00:55:52.549 Became the first field officer in Mississippi for the NAACP, 00:55:52.549 --> 00:55:53.883 not an easy job, 00:55:53.883 --> 00:55:56.752 where he helped double membership in a few short years. 00:55:56.752 --> 00:55:58.221 He helped James Meredith 00:55:58.221 --> 00:56:00.055 integrate the University of Mississippi, 00:56:00.055 --> 00:56:02.558 that landmark moment in American history, 00:56:02.558 --> 00:56:05.261 when we said you can no longer have a public facility 00:56:05.261 --> 00:56:08.131 that is reserved for one race or the other. 00:56:08.131 --> 00:56:10.600 Riots broke out on Mississippi campus 00:56:10.600 --> 00:56:13.402 and across the South and other parts of the country, as well. 00:56:13.402 --> 00:56:16.372 There were multiple attempts on Medgar Evers' life 00:56:16.372 --> 00:56:20.510 and, eventually, he was shot outside his home in 1963 00:56:20.510 --> 00:56:22.979 by an assailant lying in wait for him 00:56:22.979 --> 00:56:24.580 in the bushes of his driveway. 00:56:24.580 --> 00:56:27.750 He became a hero -- I think a martyr is a good term -- 00:56:27.750 --> 00:56:30.486 for the civil rights struggle and his efforts were integral 00:56:30.486 --> 00:56:32.788 in making civil rights a reality in this country. 00:56:32.788 --> 00:56:34.891 It's -- I'm a little bit older than you are, Damon, 00:56:34.891 --> 00:56:36.926 and I remember a song by Bob Dylan, 00:56:36.926 --> 00:56:38.327 "The Ballad of Medgar Evers". 00:56:38.327 --> 00:56:41.364 In fact, if we had time, I would sing every word of it right now, 00:56:41.364 --> 00:56:42.699 but I think we'll just say to folks 00:56:42.699 --> 00:56:44.166 that you can find it online 00:56:44.166 --> 00:56:46.569 because it's a good evocation of that event. 00:56:46.569 --> 00:56:49.405 You know, finally, I think we have moments 00:56:49.405 --> 00:56:51.507 when individuals of different marginalized 00:56:51.507 --> 00:56:53.610 or discriminated groups 00:56:53.610 --> 00:56:55.311 band together in the pursuit of equality. 00:56:55.311 --> 00:56:57.746 And I'm thinking here of Ina Sugihara, 00:56:57.746 --> 00:57:00.216 a Japanese-American activist whose work focused 00:57:00.216 --> 00:57:03.319 on building multi-racial civil rights alliances. 00:57:03.319 --> 00:57:06.255 She migrated from California, where she was born, to New York 00:57:06.255 --> 00:57:08.791 before the forced internment of the West Coast Japanese 00:57:08.791 --> 00:57:10.626 after the attack on Pearl Harbor. 00:57:10.626 --> 00:57:13.163 Founding member of the Non-Violent Congress of Racial 00:57:13.163 --> 00:57:15.698 Equality or CORE, who've done good work 00:57:15.698 --> 00:57:18.934 and continue to do good work for the longest, longest time. 00:57:18.934 --> 00:57:20.670 She helped lobby for the establishment 00:57:20.670 --> 00:57:24.406 of World War II-era protections in housing, 00:57:24.406 --> 00:57:26.909 in job discrimination, 00:57:26.909 --> 00:57:29.378 in hiring practices, in education, 00:57:29.378 --> 00:57:32.749 and had done good work for the rest of her life, 00:57:32.749 --> 00:57:35.785 so these are a few examples. 00:57:35.785 --> 00:57:37.186 We're not perfect. 00:57:37.186 --> 00:57:40.023 The country still has a long road to go in this subject, 00:57:40.023 --> 00:57:43.125 in this area, but we're better off than we were in World War II 00:57:43.125 --> 00:57:46.395 and, partially, because of really hard-working 00:57:46.395 --> 00:57:49.031 and very brave people like the ones we just talked about. 00:57:49.031 --> 00:57:50.833 -That's some great stories. -Thanks. 00:57:50.833 --> 00:57:54.270 -So, obviously, the story doesn't end with World War II 00:57:54.270 --> 00:57:55.872 or the Civil Rights Movement. 00:57:55.872 --> 00:57:58.741 All Americans have the important privilege and commitment 00:57:58.741 --> 00:58:00.610 to remember our country's history 00:58:00.610 --> 00:58:02.344 and work towards the goal of equal rights 00:58:02.344 --> 00:58:05.848 and protections guaranteed in our Constitution. 00:58:05.848 --> 00:58:08.017 The individuals and groups we profiled here today, 00:58:08.017 --> 00:58:10.787 along with many others, are models of courage, 00:58:10.787 --> 00:58:13.389 strength, and perseverance. 00:58:13.389 --> 00:58:15.758 Teachers, if you want to continue to explore this topic 00:58:15.758 --> 00:58:16.993 in further develop, 00:58:16.993 --> 00:58:18.661 be sure to check out the high school 00:58:18.661 --> 00:58:20.329 or middle school curriculum guides 00:58:20.329 --> 00:58:24.133 for this electronic field trip located on this webpage below. 00:58:24.133 --> 00:58:26.468 The Museum's "Fighting for the Right to Fight" 00:58:26.468 --> 00:58:29.305 special exhibit is traveling all across the country. 00:58:29.305 --> 00:58:32.908 It's currently at the Durham Museum in Omaha, Nebraska. 00:58:32.908 --> 00:58:35.077 Check the museum's website for more information 00:58:35.077 --> 00:58:39.248 and see if the exhibit is coming to a location near you soon. 00:58:39.248 --> 00:58:40.716 Thank you all for joining us today 00:58:40.716 --> 00:58:43.319 for this electronic field trip. 00:58:43.319 --> 00:58:46.055 A special thank you to our National Park Service partners 00:58:46.055 --> 00:58:49.292 out in California for welcoming us into your amazing parks 00:58:49.292 --> 00:58:51.794 and sharing these powerful stories with us 00:58:51.794 --> 00:58:53.862 and students across the country. 00:58:53.862 --> 00:58:56.532 A special recognition also goes to Betty Reid Soskin 00:58:56.532 --> 00:58:58.401 and Lieutenant Colonel George Hardy 00:58:58.401 --> 00:59:01.537 for their inspirational messages and testimony. 00:59:01.537 --> 00:59:03.539 Also many thanks to our sponsors 00:59:03.539 --> 00:59:06.241 for making this electronic field trip possible. 00:59:06.241 --> 00:59:08.744 From the National World War II Museum in New Orleans, 00:59:08.744 --> 00:59:10.179 this is Commander Damon Singleton 00:59:10.179 --> 00:59:12.014 and Dr. Rob Citino. 00:59:12.014 --> 00:59:14.316 Thanks for welcoming us into your classroom 00:59:14.316 --> 00:59:15.451 on Digital Learning Day. 00:59:15.451 --> 00:59:18.287 -Thanks, Damon. 00:59:18.287 --> 00:59:28.230 line:0% ♪♪ 00:59:28.230 --> 00:59:38.174 line:0% ♪♪ 00:59:38.174 --> 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